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snowwhite77
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Missing Fagan
« on: Friday 25 March 05 21:37 UTC (UK) »

My great grandfather was Andrew Fagan born 1886. He married Margaret Crosbie 1919 in Glasgow. They had 3 children the youngest(my grandfather) born 1924 (Whiteinch, Glasgow).
Sometime after the birth of his children he "jumped ship" to Australia. Nobody has any idea where or what happened. All we know is he returned some years later to die. My grandfather was still a unmarried at this time so it must have been before 1954.

I have no idea where to begin with this one. We have always suspected he remarried over there and perhaps had another family.
Can anyone give me nudge in the rught direction at all?

Regards
Amanda
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PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
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Re: Missing Fagan
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 April 05 07:17 UTC (UK) »

I can only find one Andrew Fagan and that is a death in 1887 in Ballarat, Victoria - records cover BMD's for 1836-1888
None in NSW, records only cover 1788 =1888
None in Tasmania - records 1803 - 1899
SA (marriages only 1917 - 1937) - none
Western Australia none - 1841 - 1905.

Sorry can't be more help
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Re: Missing Fagan
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 April 05 11:50 UTC (UK) »

Appreciate you trying.
Amanda
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PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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Re: Missing Fagan
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 April 05 12:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda
We have a 100 year rule over here which means that getting BDM's for recent years is not available.  Doesn't help you any, I know.
Do you know where he jumped ship - which state?
Why was he on the ship - passenger or crew member
do you know which ship?
Sorry - but these are the only things that come to mind where you might get somewhere.
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Re: Missing Fagan
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 April 05 08:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda

Many states allow access to marriages after 50-60 years. NSW marriages are online to 1945 but no sign of your Andrew. There are 52 Fagan marriages 1920-1945. Perhaps he could have also used a different name??

Queensland allow access to 1939, but I only have access to them at libraries etc. Someone can probably check Vic for you & I'm not sure about the limits for the other states.

If you have access to an LDS centre they usually have Aust BDM records available.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 May 05 20:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
My great grandfather was Andrew FAGAN. He was born 1886, Scotland. Married to Margaret CROSBIE and had 3 children. sometime around 1920/30 he "jumped ship" to Australia, and never got in touch with the family for some years.
Until he turned up at the door one day, to die!

I would like ot find out what happened to him during these missing years. Unfortunatley the only living relative is his daughter and she is not very willing to help. She says she finds it all too upsetting.
So where to next?
We have always suspected bigamy but i have no idea where to start to find anything out.
Any advice?
Much appreciated
Amanda
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DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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Re: Australia - FAGAN
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 May 05 01:55 UTC (UK) »



Amanda

You might have better luck if you post on the Emigrants to Australia Board
funnily enough -  one of my relatives did the same thing -  at least I think he did - the great girls on that board are trying to help me find out

Hope you don't mind me suggesting the change ... Tongue

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Re: Australia - FAGAN
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 May 05 03:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Amanda,

There are 111 entries for FAGAN marriages between 1920 and 1945 in New South Wales. {index only goes to 1945}
None of those answer to the name of Andrew unfortunately.

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Re: Australia - FAGAN
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 May 05 11:26 UTC (UK) »

HI,

Annie : of course i don't mind your suggestion! Anything that may help is gratefully received. Will post on there now!

Geoff : Thanks so much for taking time out to check that for me, really appreciated.

Amanda
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PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
snowwhite77
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FAGAN
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 May 05 11:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
My great grandfather was Andrew FAGAN. He was born 1886, Scotland. Married to Margaret CROSBIE and had 3 children. sometime around 1920/30 he "jumped ship" to Australia, and never got in touch with the family for some years.
Until he turned up at the door one day, to die!

I would like ot find out what happened to him during these missing years. Unfortunatley the only living relative is his daughter and she is not very willing to help. She says she finds it all too upsetting.
So where to next?
Someone very kindly checked the marriages in New South Wales for me between the years 1920 & 1945 finding no match for Andrew FAGAN. We had always suspected bigamy.
Can anyone help me find anything out about him. I would love to know more,
Many thanks
Amanda
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PATERSON- Fife,
CHALMERS- Stirlignshire
DRYSDALE - Kinross, Clackmannan
GORMAN, MOORE -Birkenhead
BELL DIAMOND Dunbartonshire
PRENTICE, HAMILTON CUNNINGHAM - Lanarkshire
FYFE - Perthshire
FAGAN - Lanarkshire
CROSBIE, SCOTT, STEVENSON, MORRISON, CHRISTIAN,- Wigtown
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Re: Australia - FAGAN
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 May 05 12:59 UTC (UK) »

I'm moving this to the Emigrants to Australia board.

Hope that helps
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