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Re: conumdrum
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 May 08 22:50 BST (UK) »

i wish there was more vanhears , i mean living vanhears that i could be related to , your help has been amazing though so thanks a lot

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There are 77 Vanhears on Genes Reunited trees - quite a few "modern" ones, I would be surprised if some weren't related to you!
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 May 08 15:51 BST (UK) »

hi mum44

no probs, i will let you know the outcome

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 20:33 BST (UK) »

right have received the wedding cert and she married robert james vanhear , father also robert james vanhear deceased (his profession was photographer) see if you can find anything about that , this means that reggies father was probably my great uncle edwins cousin Huh?
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 20:48 BST (UK) »



Hello Amanda  Cheesy

Does the marriage cert gives Robert James age ?
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 June 08 18:42 BST (UK) »

yes its 45 so that means he was born in 1875 ,profession marine steward.  His father was a photographer also called robert james deceased so its not edwins father,
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 June 08 23:17 BST (UK) »

Amanda - hello again

Well - I have trawled the births index from 1872 to 1877.  Gadget has looked in Scotland.

So far as we can see :

There is no birth registered for Robert James Vanhear,  Junior or Senior.

There is no Robert Vanhear - or Robert James - or Robert J - on the census between 1881 and 1901, either born 1875 or born of an age to be Robert James Vanhear, his father.

The only Robert Vanhear who is of his father's age was Robert Crisp Vanhear, whose children were Charles and Isabel.  He was a general dealer, not a photographer.

Gadget and I have come to the conclusion that Robert James b. 1875 was in all probability James Robert b. 1875 -  Edwin's brother.

On the marriage certificate he says he is a marine steward; I have not been able to find James Robert on the 1901 census - this could well be because he was at sea - their father James was a mariner.

I appreciate that the certificate says his father was Robert James, a photographer.  However, this information would have been supplied by the groom, and really he could have said his father was a captain in the navy - no check would have been made on that or his name.

I don't know whether you will agree that this is the most likely scenario - and of course there is no apparent proof - unless you have his death certificate?  That should have his date of birth, and you could compare it with the the birth certificate for James Robert.

I'm sorry we haven't been able to come up with anything more positive  Sad
As Gadget said earlier - they did have a lot in common, if James = Robert.




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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 June 08 23:26 BST (UK) »

Hold on, I've just found a John Vanhear, photographic artist listed as in 23 Chapel Row in 1867. I've not found out anything more yet:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stephen.pomeroy/local/photo.pdf


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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 June 08 23:28 BST (UK) »

Looks like it was in your neck of the woods, Mum - Portsea:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HAMPSHIRE/2001-10/1003705591


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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 June 08 23:32 BST (UK) »

1871:

RG10/1132 Folio 62 Page 16.

John C Vanhear, photgrapher, b. Ramsgate, aged 49
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 June 08 00:23 BST (UK) »



Amanda -  will have another look in the morning - this is rather too much of a coincidence, but at the moment that's all we seem to have   Sad

Sorry to leave it like this - promise to be back tomorrow  Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 13 June 08 08:01 BST (UK) »

Death -

John Crisp Vanhear September 1878 Portsea Island Vol 2b Page 280 age 56 (yob 1822)
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 June 08 13:17 BST (UK) »

Hmmm - some of the children of John C in 1871 are interesting.  e.g. Arthur J, 28, ship's steward!

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ - navy records show Arthur John Vanhear, b. 2 August 1843, Portsea, and Robert James Vanhear, b. 15 March 1876, Ramsgate.
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« Reply #27 on: Friday 13 June 08 13:22 BST (UK) »

hi

do you have access to these files, as i can see an john vanhear tubb, and i think that this may be relations of mine as well
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 13 June 08 13:28 BST (UK) »

Hmmm - some of the children of John C in 1871 are interesting.  e.g. Arthur J, 28, ship's steward!

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ - navy records show Arthur John Vanhear, b. 2 August 1843, Portsea, and Robert James Vanhear, b. 15 March 1876, Ramsgate.


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« Reply #29 on: Friday 13 June 08 13:38 BST (UK) »



Well   Grin  Grin   Grin   

Still can't see a birth reg. tho   Huh
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