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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 30 May 08 17:20 BST (UK) »

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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 30 May 08 17:40 BST (UK) »

In 1861 the only other Solen's shown are:

St Lukes, London

Mary Solen     bc.1796       b. Ireland
John Solen     son    bc.1837   Shoreditch

Could this be Williams mother and brother?   Notice quite a lot of the Solen's appear to be Irish so could this be the reason why nothing on IGI?   They may well have been Catholic.

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 30 May 08 17:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Annette,
i did see that one earlier Is the son John a shoemaker ?? if thats the one i was also wondering if it could be same family. Then i thought the one i seen might have been mother May ??

Going back to see if i can find it again
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« Reply #33 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:07 BST (UK) »

Hi again,
i also found the same ones on 1851 But Mother is down as May ??

HO107/1522/262/28    But still no William ??  Sad But This could well be his Mother And Brother John Solen Born c 1837 Shoreditch Shoemaker !!

Another something to consider. I did look for these on 1841 as well as William but i had no luck Sorry

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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

am I missing something too...

The marriage in 1850 might not have been to William Solen but to someone else, hence no SOLEN children born for the first 8 years, she was with her first husband. 

What where the male names on the marriage search, then search bor William Solen and Margaret x - that is of course if they did eventually marry.

sorry if I've missed this as I've only skimmed the answers.....

Do really need Amber to be exact in what she has already.  Roll Eyes

good work though  Grin

modified... 1851 Found margaret at home with parents and bro Benjamin so the marriage can't be hers.

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« Reply #35 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:49 BST (UK) »

1851 there is an Ann Solen arriving in NY to join her husband with 5 children
all born................   Ireland.  William is age 11 ?
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« Reply #36 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:00 BST (UK) »

no sign of William or the rest of the Solen family in US/Canada after that
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« Reply #37 on: Friday 30 May 08 21:17 BST (UK) »

this could be the first Mary Ann from the 1861 census

MARY ANN SOLING
B 16 JUN 1860   
C 08 JUL 1860   Old Church, Saint Pancras, 
F  WILLIAM SOLING
M  ELIZA 


in which case it would be worth getting the birth cert!...who is Eliza!


amended there was a William and Eliza SULLING with dau Mary Ann in St Pancras too....
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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #38 on: Friday 30 May 08 22:16 BST (UK) »

Hi All  Cheesy

I guess we are now waiting for the delayed answer to the initial question : ie:
Amber  Grin :If you already have all Census, what are  the 1841 and 1851 for William?

Plus some more:
Have we got the same Margaret in 1841 and 1851 as you have - ie: daughter of James and Jane

The Census that has been found for Margaret and then a death, apparently as BOUCHARD - seems to fit.
Maybe Death  is mis-indexed or unclearly written out and it does also say "SOLEN" on the certificate
Maybe the informant gave her maiden name in error (in which case you may never know, unless you find a marriage)

Here are 2 website which at least, has what could be  Margaret's BOUCHARD's forbears on it, but not her . Maybe the tree owner knows more than is online and is willing to help/share:
The latter tree's owner appears to be in Australia.
http://www.gedview.com/osborne/indilist.php?alpha=B&surname_sublist=yes&surname=Bouchard
http://joxbox.bravehost.com/CARON/fam409.html

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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #39 on: Monday 09 June 08 16:14 BST (UK) »

Hi all,  Sorry I was away but am now back.  I have read all the answers and amazed at all the searching everyone is doing.  I will try to get everything I have updated.
SOLEN:  I have 1861 Census William aged 26 Cordwainer (shoemaker), Margaret aged 24 born Bethnal Green, son William aged 2 and daughter Mary Ann aged 1.  I haven't found them at all in the 1871  Census.  In the 1881 Census, son William is in the Royal Horse Artillery in Aldershot.  William and Margaret  have Benjamin 18, Emma 16, Jane 13, James 11, John 9and Margaret 2,  all born in Shoreditch, London.  In 1891 Census th family is still the same with the addition of Son william back home and the youngest Alice 9, who was my grandmother. 

BOUCHARD:  I have Margaret's birth certificate parents James and Jane maiden name Prudens.  Margaret was born 26 February 1838.  As a matter of interest her parents and some sibling names she gave to her own children.

Benjamin Bouchard was definites her brother.  I have never found a marriage certificate for William and Margaret.  If they don't cross-reference then they are not a match.  Let me know what other information you reuqire.

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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #40 on: Friday 13 June 08 10:49 BST (UK) »

Welcome to Rootschat Amberglow  Grin

Do you have William and Margaret marriage certificate? It would tell you the
name of William father, which would help.
     

Hi CU,  apparently, there is no marriage certificate for William and Margaret.  This has been my problem for 20 years, not getting his parents name.
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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #41 on: Friday 13 June 08 10:53 BST (UK) »

Welcome, Amberglow.

It would also help if you let us know which censuses you have already seen, so we don't go over old ground.

Do you know where in London he was born?

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Hi Meles,  I have William and family  on the 1861, 1881 and 1891 Census's They were all born in Bethnal Green, London.
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Re: Who is He?
« Reply #42 on: Friday 13 June 08 10:58 BST (UK) »

Welaome to RootschaT Amberglow.

In the various census that you have traced William Solen, has his name always been transcribed 'Solen"?
If you could post the census details it may help those helping you.

Joy

Hi Joy,  Just replying to everyone, I didn't know how to do it before now!!.  On the 1861, 1881 and 1891 Census's it is always SOLEN, which is the correct name.  On the 1871 Census the family come up as SOAN, which is incorrect. These are the only Census's I have.  I can't find them on any other.

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« Reply #43 on: Friday 13 June 08 11:00 BST (UK) »



1901 Transcribed as Solem RG13/225/31/53 Williams place of birth St Lukes London.


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Dont forget You have the 1901 Amber  Grin
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« Reply #44 on: Friday 13 June 08 11:05 BST (UK) »

I got them on 1871
 RG10/499/24/4  As Solan with Benjamin Bouchard Bro in law (looks like next door)
Going for 1861 now  Grin
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And 1871  Grin

So you need William On 1841 & 1851 Which is the ones we are stuck on  Sad

You have margaret on 1841 & 1851
SO Margaret BOUCHARD, with a brother Benjamin -  is:
1841 - age 3  - HO107/ Piece 694 /  Book 11 / Folio 40 /  Pg 16
1851 - age 13 - HO107 /  Piece: 1542 /  Folio: 303 /  Pg 18

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