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AMBLY
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Hi Amber 
My thinking was: there are too many people on that one reference - there should only be 8. Someone doesn't belong there and since there are 5 women listed it must be one of the 5 brides. ie: Is it Margaret?
And this begs the question, is there a William SOLEN (or variant or mangling of) on a FREEBMD page that is missing a bride...around the same time?
Yes, of course, at the end of the day a bride and groom who marry each other must be referenced the same. However, FREEBMD is an incomplete transcribing project, and despite careful checking and data entry (often by 2 different transcribers) errors do creep in. Or sometimes, unreadable images cause the transcriber to be unable to fully decipher the vol & pg number reference (or a name). I have in the past found Brides and Grooms who definitely married each other, listed on FREEBMD with different references, where one of them is wrong.
This could be because :
the volume number is entered incorrectly (causing the event to be listed under the wrong registration district
the page number is entered incorrectly
The page number or volume being wholly or partially unreadable.
The Qtr and or year have been incorrectly entered into FREEBMD. Less common, but can happen!
The Original image itself records the wrong ref. nrs - again, that index is a transcription in itself, and human error could also occur at that stage!
For example a man may be listed as 8b 437.
His bride may be listed as 3b 437, or 8b 487, or 8b 4[_]7 - so she won't come up "with him".
With a rather unusual name like Margaret BOUCHARD, I would definitely be interested in any who come up in or around the right area in or around the right time. So unless, you have managed tie that Margaret in 1850 to one of the 4 men on the same page ...she could still be yours?
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Just re-reading the thread though, it looked like we had found Margaret in 1851 Census, unmarried and age 13 with her brother Benjamin - we were waiting to see if that was the one you had - and it looks like it is)
SO the 1850 extra bride can't be her.........but, the scenario of mis transcription could still be a factor in the missing marriage of your couple D
Cheers
AMBLY
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Amberglow
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Hi Amber My thinking was: there are too many people on that one reference - there should only be 8. Someone doesn't belong there and since there are 5 women listed it must be one of the 5 brides. ie: Is it Margaret? And this begs the question, is there a William SOLEN (or variant or mangling of) on a FREEBMD page that is missing a bride...around the same time? Yes, of course, at the end of the day a bride and groom who marry each other must be referenced the same. However, FREEBMD is an incomplete transcribing project, and despite careful checking and data entry (often by 2 different transcribers) errors do creep in. Or sometimes, unreadable images cause the transcriber to be unable to fully decipher the vol & pg number reference (or a name). I have in the past found Brides and Grooms who definitely married each other, listed on FREEBMD with different references, where one of them is wrong. This could be because : the volume number is entered incorrectly (causing the event to be listed under the wrong registration district the page number is entered incorrectly The page number or volume being wholly or partially unreadable. The Qtr and or year have been incorrectly entered into FREEBMD. Less common, but can happen! The Original image itself records the wrong ref. nrs - again, that index is a transcription in itself, and human error could also occur at that stage! For example a man may be listed as 8b 437. His bride may be listed as 3b 437, or 8b 487, or 8b 4[_]7 - so she won't come up "with him". With a rather unusual name like Margaret BOUCHARD, I would definitely be interested in any who come up in or around the right area in or around the right time. So unless, you have managed tie that Margaret in 1850 to one of the 4 men on the same page ...she could still be yours? Cheers AMBLY
Hi again Ambly, I understand what you are saying but wouldn't our searching be a waste of time if we linked ourselves with anyone who had the right name, place and date regardless of reference number. I don't feel happy to do that. I can understand that sometimes a name gets spelt wrong(i have actually changed spelling on one of my family tree lines on the actual record) but for marriages, I am not sure I could link one to another if the references didn't match.
Regards
Amber - can't give a Smiley. Tell me how to attach them lol
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Browniepants
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Hi all,
I agree with Ambly we did find her in 1851 with her parents She would of been to young to marry in 1850 ( 12 If born in 1838 ) 
I have searched 1841 & 1851 but nothing that looks like William Solen 
Yvonne 
P.S I'm Still convinced they didn't marry 
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Browniepants
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Hi Again
Cross References  I'm Confused Now (Dont Take A Lot)
Like i Said Before You Need William On the 1841 & 1851 (Which Seems Impossible to Get)
Why dont you order the death entry i found for Margaret Bouchard , it might tell you something if only that William was maybe there at her death & it might prove they were not Married (Clutching at straws here  )
I have just had to buy one for one of mine and it was a lucky dip but it worked
Dont know what else to suggest
Have you found a death entry for William yet I have looked but cant see one that fits 
Yvonne
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Amberglow
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Yvonne, William died in 1925.Don't have details in front of me. I haven't gopt his death certificate. Do the death certificates actually give spouse name. I have never felt the need to buy death certs.
After all this time I still have to ask the question "Who is he". Do you think this subject has now run its course lol.
amber
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Browniepants
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Hi amber,
Death certs give the informants name & sometimes !! it is there spouses who are present at death,
So its a long shot but i think they are worth the £7
Yvonne
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