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HELIGOLAND
« on: Friday 30 May 08 19:03 BST (UK) »

Hi, I'm looking for some information on the Island of Heliogoland , Germany, c. 1880, did they have their own census and would there be any Parish Records and if so how would I search them?  Any help would be appreciated, JOHNNIE
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:14 BST (UK) »

there are a few posts around about Heligoland. If you put Heligoland into the search box on Rootschat you'll get them all. But I remembered about this one - there was a census in 1881, so fingers crossed for you


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,202085.0.html

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Johnnie,

Helgoland or Heligoland was at times british, german and danish

you can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heligoland

it was british from 1807 to 1890, so it may have been in the british censuses, but I don't know.  Probably not, as the censuses are for England and Wales, or Ireland, or Scotland.

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Osprey, thanks for such a quick response, so that's 2 of us with connections in Heligoland!

Hi Berlin Bob, thanks for yours also, can I please draw on your vast experience and ask this....  Gt Grandad left Heligoland about 1880, I have his Marr Cert of 1892 stating Born Germany, British Subject.  Would that be because married a Brit or was it because of the history of Heli....  Cheers,  Johnnie
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Johnnie,

not that vast I'm afraid  Smiley

Where was he born ??
Do you have a topic about him on RootsChat, so we don't need to duplicate any info.

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

As far as I know roughly before WWI or a little later a woman would have taken the citizenship of her husband upon marriage, not the other way around.
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Aghadowey and Berlin Bob,  thanks for the info on British Subjects.

I have posted before regarding this Gentleman, his name was Kerwellis, doesnt sound German to me, family story is he was sent to England c. 1880 due to war brewing?  That's all I have other than he is on 1901 uk census, and a marriage cert dating 1892 in Liverpool.  Nothing more than that I'm afraid.  Johnnie
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:49 BST (UK) »

Ah yes, this guy Smiley

Topic: GERMANY: Johan Franz KERWELLES from Heligoland
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,221153.0.html

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Bob, Yes - that's my bad penny, as you can see I'm no further on with tracing him having spent hours each and every day trying!  He's out there somewhere but where, perhaps I'll never know Huh  I even have a relative going to Heligoland on my behalf!!!  Thanks for your interest and input and I'll just plod on.. and on .....and on ......Johnnie Wink
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 May 08 19:59 BST (UK) »

Sorry, Johnnie, I have no links to Heliogoland - it just rang a bell that I'd found info previously.

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:02 BST (UK) »

Johnnie,

maybe if you put the information you know on Ahnenforschung.Org, someone there might know a bit more ??

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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Bob, I already have done, but thanks for the reminder as I couldnt for the life of me remember what it was called or how I did it, I am right assuming this is the Friday Night forum?  I'll try again, thanks a lot, Johnnie ....
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:20 BST (UK) »

Yes it's english night in the forum there Smiley
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:22 BST (UK) »

Thanks Bob, but I cant fid out how to get back there, can you help please.... J ....
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Re: HELIGOLAND
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 May 08 20:27 BST (UK) »

here's the link:
http://forum.genealogy.net/ahnenforschung/forum/index.php

then click on "chat"

see you Smiley
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