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« on: Saturday 31 May 08 07:16 BST (UK) »

Hi all  Grin

I wonder if any one can help finding a marriage. My gt g/fathers birth in 1864 at Little Thurrock Grays Essex, shows his parents as Walter Bibby & Sarah Darton. Walter's occupation shown as Hawker. On the 1861 census, the surname is spelt BIBBEY. Walter is shown
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Caravan in the Horns Road, Barking. Age 17 yrs. Single. Occ: Hawker of Earthenware.
In 1871 Walter & family are at
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Caravan On Forest, Lambourne. Chipping Ongar Essex. Age 25 yrs. Married, 3 children shown on census. Occ: Hawker.

I can't find a marriage record anywhere  Embarrassed

Hope someone can help. Thanks Lyn  Smiley
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Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
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Re: Help Finding a Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 May 08 14:15 BST (UK) »

It may be that they never "officially" married.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 May 08 17:01 BST (UK) »

Hi An65

I had thought of that  Wink

Lyn
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



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Re: Help Finding a Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 May 08 17:43 BST (UK) »

does the birth cert say Sarah Bibby formally Darton?
or just Sarah Darton?
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 12:52 BST (UK) »

Hi Toni

The birth certificate actually shows my gt g/father shown as Henry Darton, and the name Darton is drawn through by pen, with the digit 3 underneath. Father is shown as Walter Bibby, Mother is shown as Sarah Darton, not formerly Darton.  Huh

Lyn  Smiley
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 13:10 BST (UK) »

this would indicate that they [the parents] were not married at the time of the birth
when / if the parents went on to marry the child would become legal and the birth certificate changed i.e. the child re-registered,  but  not in the index, there should be a space in the margin [of the cert] to write any changes.
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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
JTSMA.ORG.UK
http://www.justgiving.com/toniholman

Tomorrow is too late

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 20:00 BST (UK) »

hi lyn,
just looking through and saw your alias.... have checked out that census and it says they are from chelmsford, had a look for marriages for chelmsford and there is a marriage for george walter bibbey j/u/s 1850 in chelmsford essex.
might be worth checking different areas of essex instead of just the one and also seeing if there is anything to this chelmsford one....might be nothing but worth a check.
hope your'e well.
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 00:10 BST (UK) »

Well Toni you learn somethinjg new every day  Wink The next step I suppose is to try and locate the birth of one of the siblings and get their B/C.

Hi Amanda. I am well thanks. Still trying to make sense of all the marriages etc between the families  Grin There are a lot of Bibby / Bibbey marriages shown at Chelmsford. From memory I am sure Sarah the wife is shown on the census as b Saffron Walden. It's funny, but when we were kids we used to go to Saffron Walden a lot on family outings. Hope you are going well with your tree. Be in touch  Grin Lyn
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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



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Re: Help Finding a Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 July 08 15:53 BST (UK) »

Hi exessexgirl,

I was doing some research and came across a news article which I think may refer to Walter Bibby who appears on the Lambourne 1871 census aged 4 in your family group.
Class: RG10; Piece: 1643; Folio: 149; Page: 39;

Although the name is spelt slightly differently, I am sure it is your family.
You can find the news article on my website. Save it to your hard drive as I cannot keep it there for long.
http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/gfx/bibby.jpg

The source is,
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper August 25, 1895

Hope this helps.

Phil
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:31 BST (UK) »

i have printed off the article i hope you dont mind.? many thanks for the info
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 July 08 18:07 BST (UK) »

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i hope you dont mind.?
No, that's fine. I hope it helps as I've seen your list of name interests.

Phil
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 July 08 14:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Phil

Many thanks for replying to the posting. Sorry for the delay in replying. I have bookmarked the site, also saved and printed off the article.

I wonder if it is " our " Walter. The age and location would be right. Would'nt  have liked to have come across that lot on a dark night  Grin

Many thank's for taking the time to reply. Your help is much appreciated.
Lyn Smiley

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White, Curtis, Lockyer, Drew - St. Pancras
Collins & Catlin of Benington / Ardeley Herts,
Collins, Dunkley, Poole,  of Hackney, Edmonton,Shoreditch
Allens, Clapham,  of Islington.
DeAth.... of Shoreditch.
Gladden & Laker of Shoreditch / Bethnal Green
Bibbys, Smith, Webb, Buckley  of  Essex
Blessed and Wade Spalding Lincolnshire
Pullen, Weedon & Skipps of Hackney and Essex.
Danahar of Bethnal Green
Caddy - Stafford



Census information is Crown Copyright
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 November 08 14:50 GMT (UK) »

Hi all,

I would love to have a copy of the newspaper article on the Bibbys - they are on my family tree.  The page has expired on the web so could someone send it to me please?  My email is Dianadiluca@aol.com

Many thanks

Diana
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