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Topic: **CONSERVATION ADVICE - check here for FAQs** (Read 626 times)
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PrueM
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Hello vowlest 
Yes, it probably will, unless you can concentrate the steam and direct it pretty accurately underneath the photos as you lift them. In particular, older photos on paper and card are vulnerable to damage. Newer, resin-coated papers are more resilient.
Have you tried using a blunt blade? I like to use one of those old-style butter knives, you know the ones with the bone handles? They have a very broad, flat, blunt blade which you can carefully work under one corner of the photo, and then working very slowly with very little pressure, pull it under the photo and gently lift as you go. I've heard of people doing the same thing with a length of waxed dental floss, but I haven't tried that myself!
Another way, if you don't want to keep the albums, would be to leave the photos on the page, and pull the whole page out of the album. Then split the page through the middle (it should be laminated) using your blade, separating the front and back of the page. Cut the pages so that each photograph is on its own bit of page. Then continue splitting each half so it gets thinner and thinner. Once you are down to the thinnest layer you can achieve, you may be able to then use steam on the remainder of the page to try to remove it.
If none of these methods works, or you don't want to attempt them, I suggest finding a paper or photograph conservator who can help you. Details at the top of this thread.
I hope that helps! 
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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adee7
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Hi,
Would someone please advise me about printing the wonderfully restored photos I have on RC?
I've read several pieces of advice, but need a little guidance. Would they be OK if printed on my HP printer or would they be better if put on a disk and reproduced at a photo shop?
Regards, Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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PrueM
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Hi Kathleen
Whether you print them at home or at a photo shop won't make a huge lot of difference. In general, pigment inks (normally used at professional digital photo labs) will last longer than dye-based inks (like we use at home or like the cheaper photo shops), but it all depends on storage of your prints. If you just keep them in an album or box in the house, they might last 20 years without changing colour. If you display them in a frame, they might only last a year before they fade! If you store them in the freezer, you might have them for 100 years.
The best thing to do is to print them off when you need/want them, and make sure you keep copies of the digital files. I found this website that looks pretty useful, with information about keeping digital files safely:
http://www.savemymemories.org/Default.aspx
I hope that helps!
Cheers
Prue
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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adee7
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Hi Prue,
Thank you very much for clarifying this for me.
I have the originals in special folders, but was not sure about the beautifully restored copies. I have seen a variety of answers to the question, so thought it best to inquire. I want to put some in frames, away from direct light, so was concerned.
Your answer is a great help as usual.
Wonder if I have room in my freezer. 
Regards, Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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Pegasuss
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Re: Removing Photos' from Old Albums!
Years ago, my Mother found a good way to Remove Photo's from Her Old (Threadbare) Album!
She just Cut Around any Photo's that were 'Firmly Attached'! 
Some later had their 'Backing' Removed (with Great Care!).
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drodgers34
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Funny story
Was at my fathers over in england - he split with my mum when I was seven.
Asked to scan photos and he showed me a few from when that 'era' which had been cut in half.
He was a bit embarrassed but I put him at ease by sying "I have seen the other halves of some of these"
Managed to scan His grandfather in WW1 uniform so was a worthwhile visit (and to see him of course) He is 70 and walks over 25 miles a week - he's actually fitter than me I think ! - makes you think, doesn't it
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Rainbow74
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I have just found a website that will keep all your documents photos for the next 100 years! So once you have restored your photos why not upload them and keep them safe
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adee7
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Hi,
What is the website?
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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PrueM
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I have just found a website that will keep all your documents photos for the next 100 years! So once you have restored your photos why not upload them and keep them safe
I doubt any website can guarantee your digital files will be viable and available in 100 years, even if just for the simple reason that the website could go down at any time! Not to mention technical obsolescence. More details please!
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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Rachel-2
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Hi, I have been reading this topic, but i cant seem to find what i need.
I have 4 letters from 1916, now 3 of them are written in pencil, all have folded over to a small size.
I would like to buy something to keep them in, thought one site did just recommend a box, which they have been kept in, and should i leave them folded up, or unfold them??
sorry to sound so dim!!
I would also like to know how to store letters from this period ... most of mine are written in ink, but there is one very faded telegram written in pencil.
Rachel
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My computer is an IMAC
Please feel free to colour/play with any restores by me.
An acknowledgement would be nice, thank you :-)
BALLINGER ~~ England
FORREST ~~ Lanarkshire, Scotland
HARRIS ~~~ England
LOOKER ~~~ England, NZ, Australia
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PrueM
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Hi Rachel,
I realise I had never replied to sheronb's message from last year - if sheronb reads this, please accept my apologies!
Here is a link on the national archives of Australia's website, with FAQs about preserving your documents etc:
http://naa.gov.au/records-management/secure-and-store/physical-preservation/faq/index.aspx
Another useful page is here:
http://www.conservationregister.com/familydocuments.asp?id=4
I recommend that people store documents in clear plastic (polyethylene or polyester) pockets or sleeves. These can then either be laid in a box, or put into a folder, for storage. They must be stored flat, however, not upright on a shelf. Make copies if they are documents that you refer to alot.
If you are unable to unfold or flatten a document because it's tightly folded or rolled, let me know and I will give you some advice for a simple method of getting the paper to relax so it can be flattened.
Cheers
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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PrueM
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Hi Rachel,
The 'acid free' plastic pockets are just fine Make sure they are not PVC - although I doubt any you can get these days would be PVC.
Cheers
Prue
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) BIGG (Kent) BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) BRISBANE (Fife) DANKS (STS) DOBSON (BRK) FRANCIS (ESS) GOODE (HAM) HAYNES (Cork) INGRAM (MDX, SOM) LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) MORRISH (LND) NANCARROW (CON) OGILVIE (Moray, LND) STRATHDEE (Banff) SWAN (Fife) WOOD (LND)
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