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SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« on: Wednesday 04 June 08 09:01 BST (UK) »

Hi all

recently received a transcript of a death cert for William BOWYER (d. 14 July 1940 age 83)  of Magill and it says that he re-married at age 53 - which would be around 1910. His wife Charlotte nee TYLER, from whom I descend, died in 1906. Would someone mind looking up to see who he married, and if there were any children from that marriage?

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PS must be some children from that marriage. With Charlotte he had the following kids:

Archibald Raymond BOWYER (1880-??)

Beatrice Olive BOWYER (1883-1972) - my gt-grandma.

Agness May BOWYER (1886-??)

Isabel Codrington BOWYER (1887-??)

Charles Henry Codrington BOWYER (1892-1910)

Hester Muriel Tyler BOWYER (1894-1913)

The death certificate said that he was survived by 2 sons and 3 daughters. So there must be at least one more son somewhere.

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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 09:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Nudge

From the Sth OZ marriage CD 
it says.....

William Bowyer married Hildergarde Sarah Watson  REID
31 July  1911
Groom age 55,  Bride age 29
both widows
Grooms father John BOWYER
Brides father Johnua Simon Smith CRAMOND
Place :: Christ Church Adelaide

ref / book  312 / 248


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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 09:17 BST (UK) »


OK  Children are from SA Births   1907 - 1928

Beulah Aleen  born 19 - 03- 1912 -   Place :  Magill
Joshua William         14 -09-11914                 Magill
Raymond                 03 - 11 -1915                 Corryton
Gwenda Doreen      14 - 10 - 1920                 Magill

Hope it helps

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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 09:24 BST (UK) »

Thanks Craizi, that was quick!  Shocked

Cheers
Nudge
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 09:24 BST (UK) »

Here is her first marriage

Duncan Cochrane  REID aged 31 father Duncan Reid single
married Hildagarde Sarah Watson Cramond father Joshua Simmons Smith Cramond single
married 16/12/1909 at Res of Mrs Sarah Barty Payneham
District: Nor
Symbol:
Book/Page: 237/642

Regards Jenn

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ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, BRINDLE from Kent,
EDSALL from Cornwall,
BRYAN from Staffordshire,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 11:01 BST (UK) »

gee, Hildegarde CRAMOND remarried only 19 months after her first marriage. When did her first husband, Duncan Cochrane REID, die?

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Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 11:09 BST (UK) »


Duncan Cochrane REID
died 1909-05-25  aged 29 relative not recorded
Residence: Sandwell
Death Place: Birkenhead
District Code: PtA
Book: 341
Page: 107


I don't know  if  this couple had any  children  I  only  have births to 1906
Jenn


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Research names or areas:
I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia
and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,
ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, BRINDLE from Kent,
EDSALL from Cornwall,
BRYAN from Staffordshire,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 12:53 BST (UK) »

 Huh

Well, that just doesn't add up.  If the bdm registers are correct, Duncan Cochrane REID died over 6 months before he was married! And he aged 2 years in that short interval!

25th May 1909 - dead, aged 29
16th Dec 1909 - married, aged 31


Do we have a birth date for this chap?


Cheers
one very confused Nudge
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Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 13:13 BST (UK) »

Hi

Have checked the indexes and the info given by Jenn is as indexed.  Perhaps a mistranscription of the death year??  Not surprised at age discrepancies on marriage or death registrations.

Birth
REID Duncan Cochrane    1 Dec 1877
Father Duncan REID  Mother  Martha COCHRANE
Birth Place Portland Estate
Ref PtA103/265

Puzzling.

Cheers
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 21:10 BST (UK) »

How  odd is  that!!!

did  they  have  any  children Cando?

regard JEnn
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Research names or areas:
I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia
and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,
ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, BRINDLE from Kent,
EDSALL from Cornwall,
BRYAN from Staffordshire,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Re: SA BDM look-up please - BOWYER (again)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 21:59 BST (UK) »

I think the marriage year must be incorrect. I think maybe it is 1907, because then the ages add up. If the birth date is correct, then his age of 31 at death in 1909 is correct. If he was married in 1907, then he was 29 at marriage.

A poorly written 7 could be mistranscribed as a 9.

Thanks for your help, people.
Nudge
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Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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