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1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« on: Friday 06 June 08 03:22 BST (UK) »

Working on Armstrong family tree for my Grandparents but cant get back from Albert Edward ARMSTRONG b. 1882 married Florence Kate Ruth Gladman in Apr-June 1908 in Brighton.
Any help with Albert's Family and back?? 
Thanks   Ian
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 June 08 04:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian

Welcome to Rootschat

You do really need to see a copy of the marriage
to confirm Alberts age & fathers name.

Could this be Albert?
1901 census RG13/929 Folio 136
Henry E Armstrong Head 52 Widr...Handchair, man
Rose E Dau 25 unm...Dressmaker
Henry W Son 23 unm...Carpenter
Eva F Dau 21 unm
Albert E Son 19...Upholsterer
Ernest C Son 14...Office boy
Margaret  Dau 10
Edith F Dau 8
73 Centurion Rd, Brighton, Sussex
(all born Brighton, Sussex)

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 June 08 04:35 BST (UK) »

1891 census RG12/811 Folio 103
Henry Armstrong Head 42 ...Bath chairman, wheel
Rose Wife 42
Rose Dau 15...Dressmaker
Henry Son 13...Errand boy, port
Eva Dau 11
Albert Son 9
Ernest Son 4
Margaret Dau 11mths
73 Centurion Rd, Brighton, Sussex
(all born Brighton, Sussex)

You should be able to find them on the 1881 census at
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 June 08 07:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue ... thanks for the quick response ... some parts correct like "Albert E Son 19...Upholsterer"  as is Ernest [though wrong age] and Margaret [also wrong age] but other siblings are not known. Have we gone back to far?
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 June 08 08:12 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian
As Sue says this is all guess work until you get the certificate to confirm the names and occupations of both fathers.   Money well spent otherwise you might dash off down the wring line.   How do you know his year of birth?  The census is taken in the spring time usually - cannot remember the exact dates -so ages can be out because of that.
Was he an upholsterer?
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 June 08 09:39 BST (UK) »

Might as well add the 1881 census to the list

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Henry Edw. ARMSTRONG       Head    32   Brighton, Sussex,  Green Grocer     
Rosa ARMSTRONG                  Wife    29   Brighton, Sussex,         
Rosa Elizabeth ARMSTRONG   Daur     5   Brighton, Sussex,  Scholar     
Henry Wm. ARMSTRONG         Son      3   Brighton, Sussex,  Scholar     
Eva Gertrude ARMSTRONG      Daur    1   Brighton, Sussex,

32 Centurian Rd Green Grocers Shop
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1090 / 33
  Page Number   20
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 June 08 09:58 BST (UK) »

Perhaps  the ages you have  been given for Margaret and Ernest have been marginally falsified.  The official records record them as having their births being registered in the following quarters.

Births March 1/4 1882  Armstrong  Albert Edward    Brighton  ref 2b 239
Births Sept   1/4 1886  Armstrong  Ernest Charles   Brighton  ref 2b 267
Births June   1/4 1890  Armstrong  Margaret Annie  Brighton  ref 2b 231

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 June 08 10:07 BST (UK) »

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September quarter 1874
ARMSTRONG  Henry Edward   married Skinner  Rose     Brighton  ref  2b 318   

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 June 08 12:58 BST (UK) »

Henry Edward and Rose married 16 Jul 1874, St Peter, Brighton, according to extracted entry on IGI.

Rose Elizabeth bapt 21 Nov 1875
Henry William bapt 6 Jan 1878
Eva Gertrude bapt 4 Jan 1880
all at St Peter, Brighton, parents Henry Edward and Rosa, extracted entries on IGI

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 June 08 13:08 BST (UK) »

 Cheesy Thanks all for replies ...... I am pretty sure of dates as the Armstrong line is for my wife, and the infomation I have is from Living people for whom Albert [Snr] Edward Armstrong [1882] was the Father, and therefore I have got all the siblings correct, especially for Albert Edward [Jnr] 1908 [my father-in-law]; Gwen 1926 [youngest, who is in NZ and we visit]; Marjory Joan 1921; Doris 1913.
Albert Snf died in June 1938 in Brighton.
Are some of the earlier Armstrongs from Albert Snr parents?? but then Albert Jnr is not mentioned in some posts.
Thanks for all the helps, will keep reading
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 June 08 19:00 BST (UK) »

Hi again

I think several of us have misread your years of focus and thought you wanted to get further back into the family's history.  The deails you refer to like Albert Edward Junior (Birth registered June quarter of 1908, Brighton  2b 225  and the  Gwendoline M  birth registerd June quarter 1926 Brighton  2b 343) are more recent.

The 1891 & 1901 census details we have given are those showing Albert Senior (b 1882) as a child and although the 1881 census is too early to show Albert senior it does show his elder siblings and confirms his parents were Henry Edward and Rose nee Skinner. 

You did write that you "can't get back from Albert Edward ARMSTRONG b. 1882 who married Florence Kate Ruth Gladman in Apr-June 1908 in Brighton.
and asked for help to get Albert's family and further back," so unless it's the Gladman line you are after, where are we going wrong?

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 June 08 06:59 BST (UK) »


Thanks to all for the info given; and after reading it all again it is just what I required for "that step back". Thanks Again  Ian [in Christchurch NZ]
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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 June 08 08:28 BST (UK) »

Births registered Dec quarter 1850
Skinner  Rose     Brighton  ref 7 343

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 June 08 12:18 BST (UK) »

Rose SKINNER bapt 3 Mar 1851, St Peters, Brighton, parents William Julius and Margaret Ann - extracted entry on IGI.

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Re: 1905 Marriage Armstrong/Gladman Brighton
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 June 08 12:31 BST (UK) »

1851 - HO107/1645/360/13
43 ?? Buildings, Brighton
William Julius SKINNER, head mar 27, House painter, born Kent, Tonbridge Wells
Margaret Ann SKINNER, wife mar 24, Milliner, born Sussex, Battle
Elizabeth Georgiana SKINNER, dau 3, born Sussex, Brighton
Margaret Ann SKINNER, dau 2, born ditto
Rosa SKINNER, dau 4mths, born ditto
Elizabeth ROUST, mother in law wid 69, formerly Laundress, born Sussex, Battle
James STOVOLD, visitor unm 23, Groom, born Surrey, Albury

William Julius SKINNER married Margaret Ann ROUST, Jun qtr 1847, Brighton, 7 449.

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