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1851 census Anderson
« on: Friday 06 June 08 15:56 BST (UK) »
Could someone please do a look-up for me in the 1851 census for a George Anderson, born 1823. Later censuses give birth place as Oare or Faversham.
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 June 08 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Eric, which one is he in 1861, could you post the ref. details, and if not married do you know his parents' names?  I can see 2, one born Faversham and a stoker on board the vessel 'Cumberland', one b. Oare with wife Annie

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 June 08 17:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara
Thanks for the reply. Now I'm having to think !!!!!!
I thought George was the one with wife Annie in 1861 : RG09  531  77  11  where he gives his birthplace as Oare. The other one didn't come up on my search on "Findmypast" but having had another look??

I will have another critical look at what I have found tonight and come back to you. I am going back from an Edward James Anderson aged 33 in the 1901 census. It does look as though both Georges could have married Annie or Anne

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 June 08 20:18 BST (UK) »
1901

148 Guinness Buildings, Bermondsey, London

Edward ANDERSON head mar 33 carman b.Sheerness Kent
Annie wife 27 b.Dublin Ireland
George son 6 b.Camberwell London
Annie dau 3 b.Peckham London

RG13/388 folio 27 page 45
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1891

9 Serjeants Inn, St Dunstan in the West, City of London

George T ANDERSON head mar 67 commissionaire b.Oar Kent
Anne wife 62 b.Lutton Yorkshire
Edward J son unm 23 army reserve b.Sheerness Kent

RG12/238 folio 123 page 19
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1881

213 Hill Street (surgery), St Mary Newington, Surrey

George ANDERSON head mar 57 naval pensioner b.Faversham
Anne wife 55 b.Molton Yorkshire
John W son 10 b.Gillingham
Sandford ARNOTT mar 26 surgeon b.West Indies

RG11/539 folio 72 page 32
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1871

Admiral Elliot public house, Crown Road, Gillingham, Kent

George ANDERSON head mar 48 Greenwich pensioner & beer retailer b.Oare
Anne wife 43 b.West Sutton Yorkshire
Anne Jane dau 9 b.Sheerness Kent
George Edward son 7 b.Sheerness
Thomas Chandler son 6 b.Sheerness
Edward James son 3 b.Sheerness
John William son 6m b.Gillingham

RG10/908 folio 10 page 14
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1861

5 Green Street, Minster (Sheerness), Sheppey

George ANDERSON head mar 37 mariner b.Oare Kent
Annie wife 33 b.West Sutton Yorkshire

RG9/531 folio 77 page 11

There is also ................ George ANDERSON married age 38 b.Faversham a stoke on the vessel "Cumberland" RG9/4480 folio 57 page 14.  I wonder if this is the same chap ie. enumerated both at work and at home Huh
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There is a Royal Navy service record for a George ANDERSON born 12 Jul 1823 Faversham see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp

I couldn't see him in 1851 nor positively identify him in 1841 though he wouldn't appear if he was at sea at the time of the census in those early years Undecided

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 June 08 20:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: casalguidi on Friday 06 June 08 20:18 BST (UK)
There is also ................ George ANDERSON married age 38 b.Faversham a stoke on the vessel "Cumberland" RG9/4480 folio 57 page 14.  I wonder if this is the same chap ie. enumerated both at work and at home Huh

Quote from: Ecneps on Friday 06 June 08 16:17 BST (UK)
I can see 2, one born Faversham and a stoker on board the vessel 'Cumberland', one b. Oare with wife Annie

Yes that's the one I found that threw a spanner in the works for Eric, but I must admit I didn't look further until he confirmed what else he knew

Quite possibly enumerated twice, good point  Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 June 08 20:49 BST (UK) »
That was the sequence of census details I had followed to arrive at "where was he in 1851" and who were his parents?. I had also seen the ref in the National Archives. The extract gives his date of birth as 12/7/1823 which lines up with his age in the censuses. It also says he "volounteered" 1/6/1854. I was about to buy the details from National Archives until the spanner fell into the works!!!! so I thought I would save myself £3.50 until I was more certain.
The double entry is a distinct possibility. Faversham and Oare are places right next to each other. As you say there is not an obvious candidate in the 1841 census and I don't have access to the 1851 through findmypast, but he is obviously not apparent there.

The only possible? marriage I could find in"freebmd" took place in Liverpool in Dec Qtr 1857. with a George Anderson and a possible wife in Annie Saunders

Thank you for your interest. If you have any other ideas I shall be pleased to see them.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 June 08 21:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Eric

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The only possible? marriage I could find in"freebmd" took place in Liverpool in Dec Qtr 1857. with a George Anderson and a possible wife in Annie Saunders

I think you can discount that marriage - George ANDERSON married Jane RETTIE http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriages.html

It might be a good idea to get a birth certificate for one of the children if you can to get Anne's maiden name.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 June 08 20:44 BST (UK) »
Thought you might be interested in the follow up to George Anderson.
I got the birth cert for his son Edward James b. 1867. This confirms his father was George Anderson, a stoker in the RN. and mother Anne Rank.
I also got his service record. This shows he joined the navy in 1843 which is why he is not on 1851 census but he was serving on  HMS  Cumberland in 1861. The documents are wonderfully detailed His birthplace in the service record is given as Faversham, but all the censuses show it as the nearby Oare.  The address on the 1861 census for George at home with Anne is the same as that on the birth cert, so you were right about the double entry in the 1861 census.

I also found his marriage to Anne, in March 1860, in Bridlington¬!!!!! Which poses some other questions!! Was it a holiday romance!!!??? I think not.

If he was born in Oare in 1823 would he have been baptised there or in Faversham?

Thanks for your interest.
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