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1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« on: Saturday 07 June 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

Hi guys,

I have lost some of my relatives and was hoping someone may be able to help  Wink

I have the following family:

Johann Philipp Sommerlad (b. 1842 Ober-Rosbach, Hessen, Germany)
who married:
Elisabetha Stengel (b. 1845 Ober-Rosbach, Hessen, Germany)

They had 5 living children:
Friederike Elisabethe Sommerlad (b. 1867)
Wilhelmine Margarethe Sommerlad (b. 1870)
Friedrich Sommerlad (b. 1874)
Jakob Peter Sommerlad (b. 1877)
Anna Elisabethe Sommerlad (b. 1880)

According to family letters they left Germany in 1880 for America, but I have been unable to find them there  Undecided

Any help would be great as I can only check the 1880 census on familysearch and I think they must have been enroute at that time.

Thanks so much

Jenny
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 June 08 01:55 BST (UK) »

The 1900 Census is available for free here:   http://labs.familysearch.org/

I think I may have found the mother & children on a passenger list.
21 Sept. 1881, from Hamburg, Germany and Le Havre, France to New York, Ship - Wieland

Elise Sommerlad, age 36, female, wife
Frederike, age 8, female
Minna, age  7, female
Franz, age 6, male
Jacob, age 11 months, male
All listed as Hessian & intending to become inhabitants of the United States.

I think I might have found Friedrich & Jacob in Washington state.

WWI Draft Registration Cards

Fred Sommerlad
E. 3527 Everett, Hillgard, Spokane, Washington
43 years old, born 24 Dec. 1874
White, declarant (for naturalization), citizen of Germany
occupation - tankman for Gr. Nov. Ry. Co., Hillgard, Washington
Nearest relative - daughter Catherine Sommerlad at same address

Jacob Sommerlad
PO Box 484, Hillgard, Spokane, Washington
age 41, born 10 Aug 1877
White, non-declarant, citizen of Germany
Occupation - car repairer for Gr. Nov. Ry. Co., Hillgard, Washington
Nearest relative - brother Fred, PO Box 484, Hillgard, Washington

1920 Census, Mead, Spokane, Washington
I'm having trouble accessing the image at the moment, but Frederich was born abt. 1875 in Germany, was a widow, owned his own home, immigrated 1881.  Jacob was born about 1878 in Germany, brother of Fred, single, immigrated 1881.

Washington Death Index entries

Fred Sommerlad, died 23 Jul 1941 in Spokane City, age 66
Jacob Sommerlad, died 20 Dec 1942 in Spokane City, age 65

Here's a possible match for Anna Elisabethe:
Iowa State Census, 1 Jan 1925, Cooper, Webster Co.
Eliza Brock, age 44, born in Germany, married, mother:  Anna Stangel, father:  Phillip Sommerlad, both parents born in Germany
She's living with her husband Herman and children Hilda, Erma, Ellora, & Melvin.
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 June 08 02:20 BST (UK) »

Hello Shellyesq,

Thank you soooo much  Grin

That is them alright the birth dates for Fred and Jacob are a match to my German Church records! I wonder why the father Johann Philipp does not show up on the immigration records? Maybe he went first and they followed.

Well at least it appears they arrived and survived, I had a letter from their father, who after 10years never heard a word from them. If only they had had the communication systems we have now hey  Undecided

I will have a look at the 1900 census and see if I can find them Smiley

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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 June 08 02:21 BST (UK) »

Just saw the additions, yay that looks like Anna as well Smiley
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 June 08 02:54 BST (UK) »

Fred and Jacob in Spokane Wash. 1920 Fred Widower and Jacob Single (living together).  Fred's dau Katherine (12) is living in Spokane as a boarder with the Harry (?) Wise family; says her mother was born Missouri.  There *might* be another brother Emil (also living Spokane with his family, wife b Nebraska) who was b. in Iowa, USA ca 1884.

1890 US census doesn't exist.  Have looked at 1900, 1910 with no luck (have checked Iowa, Nebraska, and Missouri as well as Washington.  Sommerlad isn't a popular name, but variant spellings could pose a problem.

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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 June 08 02:59 BST (UK) »

Yeah I can't find them either Nick  Roll Eyes

Emil is a definate possibility though as it is a family name. Johann Philipp Sommerlad had a brother Friederich Emil Sommerlad who lived in Giesen. Maybe he named two of his boys after him?

Thanks for having a look they are proving to be difficult!

Jenny
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Jenny,

I found a marriage for Emil to a Therese in Spokane in 1910 on Washington State Digital Archives.  It is free, but let me know if you can't find it.

I don't have access to Ancestry and my census provider doesn't allow wildcard searches.  If someone can search ancestry for 1900, 1910, and 1930, a wild card search that would include last name spellings like summerlade/sommerland/somerlad, etc would perhaps help.

Nick
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:33 BST (UK) »

Wow, thanks Nick  Grin

Just had a look it is definately them alright!!!

Now fingers crossed someone can find any one of them on the census.......

Thanks again for the help

Jenny
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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:35 BST (UK) »

OK, here is a possibility:

1910 Espanola Twp, Spokane Co, Washington there is a " JP Somerlad", 67 at the insane asylum.  It says he is married, and a stone mason born Germany.  Census done June 8, 1910, so that puts his birthyear 1842-43.

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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:50 BST (UK) »

Looks good, I was just looking at the same image!!!

Under J P Somerbad in the index of course  Roll Eyes

I'll keep looking.....

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Re: 1880+ census look up - Sommerlad
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:51 BST (UK) »

I really have to get to the store since I am down to a couple of pieces of salami and a few slices of bread, but this is too cool to wait.

It looks like the wife of JP was known as "Annie Bistal/Bistol" and Johann himself was known as "Jake".

There are some deaths at
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03lj/

This is the new family search labs site that has Washington Stet death from 1907-60

Cheers,

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 June 08 04:01 BST (UK) »

How cool  Grin

The plot thickens!!!

He seems to be known as JP, Jake, Philip etc.......wish he would keep the same name!

Jenny

P.S You can go buy your salami now, I won't mind...if fact I have to stop breifly to eat some lunch as I think my stomach will eat itself if I don't do something soon  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 June 08 04:10 BST (UK) »


Hi Jenny ..... I can write these out if you don't have access !! Smiley

Washington Death Index 1940-1996

Emil Sommerlad
Birth -  1886
Death - 1 Oct 1941 - Spokane City

1920 census

Emil Sommerlad
Birth -  1886 - Iowa ??
Residence - 1920 - Spokane  Washington

Emil Sommerlad   34
Theresa Sommerlad   29
Ruth Sommerlad   4/12

Annie  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 June 08 04:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Annie,

Thanks for the offer that would be great, I don't have access atm

Any luck with them on 1900 or 1910??

Fingers crossed they show up somewhere hey... they must all be there  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 June 08 06:22 BST (UK) »

Woooooo Hoooo!

Finally found them in the 1910 Washington Census!!  Grin Grin

1910 census - Mead Township, Spokane, Washington

Fred Summerlad Head M White 34yrs Married 5yrs b. Germany Fa: Germany Mo: Germany English occ? Brick work
Sarah E? Summerlad Wife F White 33yrs Married 2nd time 5yrs 1 child b. Iowa Fa: Pennsylvania Mo: Canada English
Laura M K Summerlad Dau F White 2yrs S b. Washington Fa: Germany Mo: Iowa English

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Amil Summerlad Head M White 24yrs Married 0 yrs b. Iowa Fa: Germany Mo: Germany English occ Concrete
Tracey Summerlad Wife F White 19yrs Married 0yrs b. Nebraska Fa: Germany Mo: Germany English
Anna Summerlad Mother F White 66yrs Married 48yrs 10 children 5 living b. Germany Fa: Germany Mo: Germany English

Under Summerland in the index  Wink

Now to find the others!

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