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MC
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*COMPLETED* Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« on: Monday 09 June 08 15:03 UTC (UK) »

Would be grateful for Census lookups please - 1841 & 1851 if possible.

John and Cordelia Wigley (Wrigley?) lived Aberayron, Cardinganshire, Wales after marrying in London in 1804. A Cordelia Wigley died in 1852 and this might have been her.

Cordelia's maiden name was Cordelia Pryce Clunne, and her brother was Thomas Pryce Clunne.

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Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 June 08 16:38 UTC (UK) »

1851 - very poor image so can't make out very much:

Ho107/2484 Folio 221 page 11

46 Pier Street, Henfynyw, Aberayron

George Wigley, 58, Lieutenant  ?, b. Cumberland
Elizabeth Margaret Wigley, wife, 48, b. Hampshire
Georgina Maxwell Wigley, dau,  22, b. Carmarthenshire
Cordelia Wigley, mother, widow, 78, b. Middlesex
Elinor Davies, servant, 30, b. Cardiganshire
Elinor Jones, servant, 22,b. Cardiganshire
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 June 08 16:46 UTC (UK) »

1841:

HO107/ 1373 Book 3 Folio 5 Page 6
Market Street, Henfynyw, Aberayron

George Wigley, 45-49, Army HD (?)
Elizabeth, 35-39
Alban(? -male), 8
Cordelia, 65-69, Ind
Jane Caleb, 20-24 Female servant

All except Jane, not b. county

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:00 UTC (UK) »

This looks a good possible for marriage:

28 Nov 1827 George James Wigley Lt 63 Regt. - Elizabeth Margaret Davies, St Peters Carm. at Llanddewi Aberarth Cardigan

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:01 UTC (UK) »

It fits very well, Cas  Cheesy

Any sign of the Alban ? aged 8 on the 1841.

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Marriages only go up to 1837 gadget  Undecided  Cannot see him on 1851 or Georgina in 1841, will take another look...

Marriages Jun 1852   
 
Brittan  Alfred    Aberayron  11b 87   
Edwards  Elizabeth     Aberayron  11b 87   
Lloyd  John     Aberayron  11b 87   
Wigley  Georgiana Maxwell     Aberayron  11b 87

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:33 UTC (UK) »

Here is Georgina in 1861 - RG9 Piece 1728 Folio 52 Page 54
12 Brighton Park, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire

Alfred Brittan 38 head, attorney at law, City & County of Bristol
Georgina Mox Maxwell Brittan 32  Carmarthenshire, Wales
Mary Brittan 8  dau, Bristol City & County Clifton
Martha Evans 16  house serv, Aberayron, Cardigan
Hannah Taylor 22  house serv, Lancs

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:38 UTC (UK) »

IGI (extracted)

Bpt 10 July 1833 Llandefeilog, Carmarthen

Alban Beaufoy Hughes Wigley

parents - George James Wigley and Elizabeth Margaret
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:41 UTC (UK) »

Cannot find a death for Alban...but here is his mother

Deaths Jun 1858  Wigley  Elizabeth Margaret     Aberayron  11b 43

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:43 UTC (UK) »

Just wondering about all this -

MC says that Cordelia and John married in 1804 but George was 58 on the 1851  Undecided

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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:47 UTC (UK) »

mmmmm, perhaps we should wait before going any further...but Cordelia Wigley is not that common a name so should be the right family?

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:51 UTC (UK) »

And she was b. Middlesex and it was Aberaryon

It was the only one in Cardigan that I could find and I tried Wrigley as well. Can't find a birth for George on the IGI or a marriage for John and Cordelia  Undecided
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 June 08 17:55 UTC (UK) »

Best leave it until we get feedback...am sure it is the right family.... Wink

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 June 08 18:04 UTC (UK) »

Yep and as the request was for 1841 and 1851 only, i think we've added some extras  Smiley
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Re: Census lookup 1841/1851 Aberayron
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 09:45 UTC (UK) »

Cheesy Oh! You have both been very busy with my request...Thank you Cas & Gadget very much - I had to toddle off to bed, it being the very early hours down here, so I snoozed while you both did the hard work.

You certainly found a Cordelia Wigley, and as Cas said, it is not a common name, but I was hoping she would be a little younger than the one on the Census...I don't know what to make of it all yet.  Maybe it is not her, although the structure of the family, the way they named their children etc., is very similar to the way the Clunne family named theirs.

Information which might make things plainer...1st., re Thomas:

Thomas Pryce Clunne m. Ann Piplar in 1804 at St Margaret Pattens & St Gabriel, Rood Lane, London - they then went to live at Gravesend Kent, where they had Thomas Pipler Pryce Clunne 1808, Cordelia 1809, John (2) 1811 died, 1813 (bap St George, Gravesend) & Sarah 1817 - (the place 'Milton near Gravesend' comes up a lot - and names such as Cordelia and Thomas Pipler Pryce follow in the next generations)

By 1841 Census, Ann Clunne is a widow of  independent means - but I haven't been able to find the death of her husband, Thomas Pryce Clunne, whose death would have occurred sometime between 1816 - 1841. I was hoping by following Cordelia via the Census, I might find out where they were both born, and I note that Cordelia of Aberayron was born in Middlesex.

Information on Cordelia:
Cordelia Pryce Clunne m. John Wigley same year as Thomas, 1804 at St Margaret Pattens & St Gabriel also...so I had assumed she was his sister and was led to believe that they went to Aberayron...

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