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liverpool annie
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Ken .... can I just say ..... I love the "boys" as your avatar .... can we have them back ??
I love to laugh at them !!
Annie 
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Conductor Mike
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Hi there. You might try the War Memorials Trust at: warmemorials.org and the UKNIWM.org.uk. But I suspect its long hard logging of names and tracking them down via CWGC.org.
Best of luck, I've just been through it with excellent support from this group. Mike
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manmack
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hiya guys.
ive had a go at some of the names,but had no joy in pinning the memorial down.
if it is a collyhurst memorial,then monsstar will be able to help,hes an old collyhurst lad.
mack
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military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.
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manmack
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Hi there. You might try the War Memorials Trust at: warmemorials.org and the UKNIWM.org.uk. But I suspect its long hard logging of names and tracking them down via CWGC.org.
Best of luck, I've just been through it with excellent support from this group. Mike
mikes right.it will be a tough one to crack,but you all seem very keen to have a go,and it wouldnt surprise me if you succeeded.
mack
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military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.
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MancsMan
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Emms
Even with the 1meg photo you sent, it is still hard to make out any details even after photo enhancing.
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emmsthheight
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Hi All
Thank you for all the interestin g feedback!
And the dancesrs, Ken. OIn fact if I don't look often enough, I'm going to moiss some good stuff with your avatar's.
Thank you for the latest image too. I can see nearer the bottom.
Putting all of it together, it really does look like the area people have mentioned around Collyhurst, and churches look .like a favourite. William's family were RC, but I don't know if he stayed that way, or if that would affect a war memorial.
If it is a church, it is on the edge of the grounds near houses, possibly semi's. Does the Rc at Collyhurst have a War Memorial?
If we could work out the date atmthe top, there might be an entry in Manchester evening News when it was officially opened.
Thank you all again.
Emms.
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josey
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Here is the googleearth image for St Patrick's Collyhurst.
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IRELAND; Cavan, Cork: MURRAY, HOLLAND Meath: LYNCH Westmeath ALLEN, BRENNAN Dublin ALLEN, McGINTY, PENROSE Unknown: DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS
87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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josey
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Quote from wikipaedia
"For a brief period in the mid 1970s, The Electric Circus, a run down former bingo hall on Rochdale Road, found itself at the centre of Manchester's punk rock scene. It played host to bands such as the Sex Pistols, The Jam, Joy Division—then known as Warsaw—and the Buzzcocks, before its closure in 1977. It has now been demolished."
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IRELAND; Cavan, Cork: MURRAY, HOLLAND Meath: LYNCH Westmeath ALLEN, BRENNAN Dublin ALLEN, McGINTY, PENROSE Unknown: DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS
87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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josey
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Here is the inscription on th Collyhurst memorial according to the Channel 4 Lost Generation website:
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/L/lostgeneration/search/m-record.jsp?id=30030
TO THE ENDURING / MEMORY OF / THOSE WHO GAVE / THEIR LIVES / ALSO THOSE WHO FOUGHT / FOR GOD AND COUNTRY / IN THE GREAT WAR / 1914-1919 / THE FOLLOWING KILLED IN ACTION DIED OF WOUNDS / (NAMES) / THIS MEMORIAL WAS ERECTED / BY PUBLIC SUBSCRIPTION / AND WAS UNVEILED BY THE /RT HON EARL OF DERBY K.G/ / SECRETARY OF STATE FOR WAR / MAY 25TH 1923.
Fits in with May 25th we can see on the top section....
Josey
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IRELAND; Cavan, Cork: MURRAY, HOLLAND Meath: LYNCH Westmeath ALLEN, BRENNAN Dublin ALLEN, McGINTY, PENROSE Unknown: DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS
87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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liverpool annie
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It also said enclosed within iron railings !  ( I assumed that was a wood fence in the picture ... but could it be iron ?? )
Wonder if there are any newspaper clippings of the Earl of Derby unveiling it ??
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josey
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But is that foliage or collapsed iron decoration in the bottom left corner?
Josey
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IRELAND; Cavan, Cork: MURRAY, HOLLAND Meath: LYNCH Westmeath ALLEN, BRENNAN Dublin ALLEN, McGINTY, PENROSE Unknown: DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS
87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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josey
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Anyone seen this link?
http://bujold.co.uk/html/ancoats__miles_platting__new_c_1.html
There is an offer to look up any names.
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IRELAND; Cavan, Cork: MURRAY, HOLLAND Meath: LYNCH Westmeath ALLEN, BRENNAN Dublin ALLEN, McGINTY, PENROSE Unknown: DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS
87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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liverpool annie
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A 4-month programme of conservation and repair (including replacing damaged stone
and re-cutting commemorations) was completed for the WWI memorial on Rochdale
Road in Collyhurst in June. Blackley War Memorial (Grade II listed) in Bogart Hole
Clough was cleaned and restored in time for Remembrance Sunday.
Both of these projects were extensive and complex. Collyhurst had suffered severe
stone decay and many of the names were missing or illegible. The specialist
stonemasons were able to recut and re-black names, re-inscribe missing names, and
add a new inscription to commemorate post-WWII war deaths. The Blackley war
memorial (also know as the ‘Angel’) had extensive damage to the stonework that was
repaired with new stone indents, and the Angel herself was removed for conservation at
National Museums Liverpool.
Conservation expertise for both projects was supplied by Conservation Technologies,
National Museums Liverpool at a total cost of £75,000
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/War_Memorials_and_Public_Art_October_2007.pdf
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liverpool annie
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I think you've got it Josey !!
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