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Re: graves family
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 14:09 UTC (UK) »

Well done Geoff - you've pointed us in the right direction

this looks like the family
1861
Back St Bassingham Lincs

John graves head Widower 49 ag lab
Ruth daughter 14
Robert son 11
Charlotte daughter 8
Edmund son 6
John greaves son M 28 ag lab
Margaret daughter in law M 32
Henry grandson 8
Sarah granddaughter 4
Hannah granddaughter 2
all b bassingham Lincs
RG9 2477 21 35

please reply on this thread instead of nottingham one
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Re: graves family
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 14:25 UTC (UK) »

looks lke Robert's parents in 1841
bassingham Lincs
John Graves 25 ag lab
Millicent 25
John 8
Proctor 6
Edmund 3
Mary 1
all b Bassingham
HO107 2136 204 2

1851
John Graves head M 39 ag lab
Milicent wife 36
John son 18 Carrier serv
Mary daughter 11
Kezia daughter 8
Elizabeth daughter 6
Ruth daughter3
Robert son 1 next door but 1 and 2 are Proctor families who may/may not be related to milicent
HO107 2136 04 2

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Re: graves family
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 14:43 UTC (UK) »

1871
Bassingham
John Graves head M 59 ag lab Bassingham
Ann wife 54 Allington lincs
George ??pealand Grandson 7 Bassingham
Mary Saunders visitor M 33 Nail makers wife
John T saunders visitor 9mth Stamford Lincs
RG10 3540 5 2

1881
John Graves head M 69 Coal Dealer Bassingham
Ann wife 63 Allington
John T Saunders Grandson 9 Stamford Lincs
RG11 3374 14 21

so by John's occupation it looks like this is very possibly the family

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Re: graves family
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 15:01 UTC (UK) »

2nd marriage (explaining the grandson's name in 1871)

Marriages Jun 1861 
Graves    John        Newark    7b   429    
Yealand    Ann         Newark    7b   429

Burials at Bassingham
7 Feb 1855 Millicent GRAVES (40)
22 Nov 1849 Robert GRAVES (63) -  father of John
1 Jan 1870 Elizabeth GRAVES (76) - mother of John
19 Feb 1883 John GRAVES (72)
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Re: graves family
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 June 08 21:40 UTC (UK) »

I have Robert Graves 1849 on my database - as already reported Robert was the son of John Graves and Millicent Proctor.

John was b 1811 on Bassingham andwas the son of Robert Graves and Elizabeth Baker

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My Maternal line are all from Lincolnshire - First Generations include:
Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: graves family
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 09:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi,  I think we are related!!
(Thank-you Jacky, it was nice to see your post, I was being thick on my Graves family and the link between them and this Bassingham one. Should have gone straight to your data base!!)

I have a connection thus-- Robert Graves who married Elizabeth Baker was brother of Job Graves my grt x 3 grandfather. these Graves sons of Robert Graves and Mary Pedge.


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Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore
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Re: graves family
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 11:47 UTC (UK) »

I have been looking at Robert of Skellingthorpe and wondering!!!!!!. Many thanks for the confirmation.

Another loose end tied in.

Best regards,

Jacky
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My Maternal line are all from Lincolnshire - First Generations include:
Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: graves family
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 18:17 UTC (UK) »

Are you sure Robert Graves from Bassingham,was born Skellingthorpe,my 3 x great grand father William Graves was born at Skellingthorpe,son of Robert and Mary.Do you have Robert seniors birth place and parents,do you know if the two families of Graves at NavenbyWilliam and Ann having sons John 1825 and Robert 1827 and Thomas and Mary daughter Susan at Navenby 1829 then Mary,George,Esther and William at Digby,have any connection to the Skellingthorpe family
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Re: graves family
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 18:39 UTC (UK) »

You will find this family in my database

Regards

Jacky
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My Maternal line are all from Lincolnshire - First Generations include:
Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: graves family
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 18:48 UTC (UK) »

Are you sure Robert Graves from Bassingham,was born Skellingthorpe,my 3 x great grand father William Graves was born at Skellingthorpe,son of Robert and Mary.Do you have Robert seniors birth place and parents,do you know if the two families of Graves at NavenbyWilliam and Ann having sons John 1825 and Robert 1827 and Thomas and Mary daughter Susan at Navenby 1829 then Mary,George,Esther and William at Digby,have any connection to the Skellingthorpe family

I dont know of a link between the familes - Robert Snr was  of Sturton le Steeple, Nottinghamshire, Engand when he married Mary Pedge - he being born circa 1742

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My Maternal line are all from Lincolnshire - First Generations include:
Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: graves family
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Jacky will probably have the same info as I, (have a look ,its a great resource)--but I have a William Graves born 1789 Skellingthorpe s o Robert and Mary, married Sarah Sharpe. died 1851, Welbourne. Had 2 children, William and Caroline.
Is this your William?
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London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore
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Re: graves family
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 15:29 UTC (UK) »

The Lincs Marriage Indexes do not say that William was a Widow when he married Sarah Sharpe  but two of children of the first marriage are living with them in 1841.

Williams first wife was Ann Blaney (indexed under Greaves) in 1817 at Welbourn (incidently some records say Welbourne - which is correct?) Ann died in Apr 1833, William Jan 1851 and Sarah Nov 1864 - all at Welbourn.

Interestly the 1851 Census has brother in law John Graves born circ 1781 at Skellingthorpe resident with Sarah - did not know about him.

Will update Rootsweb when I have done some more "digging"

Currently I have the children of William and Ann as:-

Elizabeth Blaney Graves 1818 Welbourn
George Blaney Graves 1821 Welbourn died May 1891 Welbourn wife Eliza Ogden
Mary 1822 Welbourn
Thomas 1826 Welbourn wife Elizabeth Carrington
William 1827 Welbourn d 1898 Welbourne wife - Sarah surname as yet unknown

Children of William and Sarah Sharpe

Caroline 1838 Welbourn husband George Scott
Frances 1834 Welbourn

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My Maternal line are all from Lincolnshire - First Generations include:
Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: graves family
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 15:41 UTC (UK) »

Jacky will probably have the same info as I, (have a look ,its a great resource)--but I have a William Graves born 1789 Skellingthorpe s o Robert and Mary, married Sarah Sharpe. died 1851, Welbourne. Had 2 children, William and Caroline.
Is this your William?
Sally

That was his second marriage - first one was in 1817 (as GREAVES) to Ann BLANEY - several children including George and William, present in 1841).  Annie was buried 30 April 1833 (42)

I see Jacky has posted the something similar Smiley

A John GRAVES was next door to William in 1841 but born "not Lincs".
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Re: graves family
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 16:25 UTC (UK) »

The John Graves living next door to William in 1841,was no relation as far as i know,his brother John was living at Metheringham in 1841 with wife Bridget (Catten),son James and grand son Thomas Bavin,Thomas Bavins father William Bavin,was the brother of John Bavin,who was second husband of Edward Carringtons wife Louisa.Edward was related to Thomas Graves wife Elizabeth Carrington,she was born at Navenby in 1829,in 1841 she was living with a William and Grace Carrington,at Carlton le Moorland,Edward was Williams younger brother.I am not sure what relation Elizabeth was,William wed Grace Thompson at Carlton in 1820,so they can`t be her grand parents,unless Grace was a second wife,in which case William could be her grand father,he was born at Bassingham in 1781.I notice on the i.g.i. there are Graves at Bassingham going back to 1600`s,i wonder if this is where the family originate from
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Re: graves family
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 16:53 UTC (UK) »

William Graves wife was Sarah Taylor,wed 1852,i wondered if the John and Robert Graves bapt.to William and Ann at Navenby,could be chilren of William and wife Ann Blaney
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