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graves family
« on: Wednesday 11 June 08 11:48 UTC (UK) »

I am stucj with my family search I am trying to look into my grandma's side but I have come to a dead end. I have Robert graves who was born 1853 father is John Graves. Robert married Annie Oldham in 1883 in Newark Notts. I have found a birth that i think may be him but was hoping someone may be able to help before I purchase anymore birth or marriage certs, getting quite a collection. the birth I have is louth third quarter 1853.
If any of this is part of anyones tree or may be able to help pointing me in another direction I really would appreciate the help.
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Kara
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Re: graves family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kara,

Welcome to rootschat!

Just wondering if you have Robert in any census?
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Re: graves family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:10 UTC (UK) »


Hello Kara  -  welcome from me too  Grin

Can I ask where you got Robert's father's name?

Certainly the Robert birth reg. you found looks likely, there doesn't seem to be another born then in Lincolnshire.  However, I see that in 1861 census both parents of that Robert were away from home   Huh   In 1871 that Robert seems to be in Yorkshire as a chemists and druggist aprentice, but the other two siblings from 1861 are home, with parents Michael and Elizabeth  Huh

This may not therefore be the one  Sad
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Re: graves family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mum44
I have Robert Graves & Annie Oldham's marriage cert that shows Roberts father is John Graves dec at thime of marriage in 1883. After platying for a bit on rootsweb I have found a grave stone from St Helen's in North Thoresby showing John Graves died 5may1860 aged 55yrs. This could be him but not too sure!
My Grandad's family was so much easier to do!!
I appreciate any help.

Cheers
Kara
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Re: graves family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:33 UTC (UK) »


Well, it doesn't look as if the Robert 1853 Louth is yours  Huh

Can I just ask a couple more questions:

Ruskie already asked - have you found him an a census ?

What are you basing his age on?  Is that also from the marriage certificate?

And what were the occupations of Robert and his father - also to be found on the marriage certificate.
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Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: graves family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:40 UTC (UK) »

I haven't found them on a census yet! Although on another site I was chatting to someone else who has been searching for Graves but not the same as mine and they found spelling was sometimes greaves - just to throw a spanner in the works!
I am going on the marriage cert for the age he was 30yrs at time of marriage on the 16th of May 1883 - Roberts occupation was Farm Laborour from what I can tell and his father John Graves who was deceased at the time of marriage was a Coal Dealer.
I hope this helps?? I'll keep searching too and keep you posted on my progress. Thanks heaps for all your help.
Kara
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Re: graves family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:43 UTC (UK) »

My money would be on the Robert GRAVES bap in Bassingham 18 Dec 1849, son of John and Millicent.

Bassingham was in Newark Reg Dist. (I can see no birth reg for Robert)

John GRAVES married Melicent PROCTOR at Bassingham, 20 Dec 1832

Was Annie's father David? ... I can see one nearby in Carlton le Moorland.

Deaths Mar 1883 
GRAVES    John    72    Newark    7b   261
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Re: graves family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:55 UTC (UK) »

Annies father was david Oldham a Labourer
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Re: graves family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 12:57 UTC (UK) »



Just linking this to duplicate thread on the Notts, board  Cheesy

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=309510.new#new
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Re: graves family
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 13:02 UTC (UK) »

They appear as GREAVES in 1891 ... Robert's birthplace is given as Bassingham, Annie's as Carlton le Moorland, so it looks like I found them. Smiley
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Re: graves family
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 13:08 UTC (UK) »

thanks heaps for this hopefulyy may be able to find birth cert now so can get more info on parents. I really do appreciate it  Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: graves family
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 13:10 UTC (UK) »

I think this is the best you will get

Births Mar 1850 
GREAVES    Robert        Newark    15   558
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Re: graves family
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 13:11 UTC (UK) »

Well found Geoff !
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Re: graves family
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 13:17 UTC (UK) »

thanks heaps for this hopefulyy may be able to find birth cert now so can get more info on parents.

I gave you his parents names.  His dad was an AgLab in 1851 ... but a Coal Dealer in 1881!
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Re: graves family
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 14:04 UTC (UK) »

Shall we all reply on this board instead of Notts board -to save duplicating our efforts???

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