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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 June 08 00:13 BST (UK) »

Hope this link works....it's Esther Denham's death in the newspaper in London.  It notes she is a native of Cold Stream, Scotland and came to first Detroit in 1852 and then London, Ontario

http://www.paperofrecord.com/paper_view.asp?PaperId=252&RecordId=2&PageId=3968900&iZyNetId={45552950-7177-43DD-99EF-764426A70314}&iOrder=2&iOrderDir=0&iCurrentBlock=1

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 June 08 01:06 BST (UK) »

I signed up for the web site etc. and then put her name in for the only paper for London which only starts in1880 and nothing showed.
There are several listings for Denham...do you have a date of the paper?
does it meniton when she died?
any children?
family members?


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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 June 08 02:50 BST (UK) »

I'll try and post it.....

The date of the paper is Tuesday October 19, 1880



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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 June 08 03:45 BST (UK) »

Thanks so much, it came thru very clear.
What do you make of it though?

she has had fits for five years
term inmates of the house is used; she is called a patient
sleeping with sister in law (a sister of David Denham or a Luke?)
not sure of the language of the time, would others in the household be called inmates of the house?
becasue she had been ill, I guess she could be a "patient"
it mentions she did died at her residence...
sorry, no children...

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 June 08 09:19 BST (UK) »

Oh wow Grin well done Karen  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy so the 1881 census is back on!!!!! It was the marriage of David to Frances not Esther that I couldn't understand but new info. seems to tie it all in  Smiley
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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 June 08 13:47 BST (UK) »

Wow! Lots of wonderful information being provided for you, Julie. Cheesy Unfortunately, it does rule out the 1824 Dunbar birth for David, as parents there were David and Euphemia. However, the marriage registration to Frances Murray gives them as John and Elizabeth Denham. Sad

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 June 08 16:57 BST (UK) »

Yes, there is so much great material...
I looked briefly for a John and Elizabeth Denham in Scotland census records with a son named David etc. and couldn't find any that seemed to fit the bill. so far that is...
I am trying to get in touch with Mt Pleasant Cemetery and see if they have dates for birth for David, Isabella, and Esther etc.
Their records are on microfiche but not sure where they can be viewed etc.

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:14 BST (UK) »

Death Registration for....

Isabella Luke
Date of Death:  May 27, 1886
Age:  50 years
Single
Born:  Scotland
Cause of Death:  Jaundice 3 months
Informant;  Charles F. Moore, Physician, Wellington St., London
Reg. No. 010623
City of London, Ontario, County of Middlesex

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 June 08 18:37 BST (UK) »

Karen:
whereever you are, Bless you...
I don't have the access to the Canadian records you have...
I just called the Mt Pleasant Cemetery in London.
They had no info on Isabel Luke that the young man could find.
He found that D A Denham and Esther Denham had been moved to an A S Murray but he has no idea what or where they are.
Also he had a date of burial as 10 Sept 1914, so maybe that is the date they were moved.
The fellow at the cemetery also does not know where their microfiche records are...

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 June 08 18:50 BST (UK) »

Your welcome!!  I'm in Ontario  Smiley

I think if you contact the London & Middlesex branch, they will have the microfilm

For REFERENCE FIELD numbers beginning with "MX-", write to...

                   London-Middlesex Branch, OGS
                   Grosvenor Lodge, 1017 Western Road
                   London, Ontario, Canada
                   N6G 1G5
        (Please note: the large Mount Pleasant cemetery, MX-144-CS,
        located in the city of London is available only on fiche.)


http://www.mirror.org/groups/genealogy/index.html

Is AS Murray a person?  Are they still in Mt. Pleasant?

Karen


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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #25 on: Friday 13 June 08 18:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie

This is the closest I can see on the 1841 census, which also fits with David's occupation:

Jas Denham    70, tailor
Jean Denham    60, b. Scotland
William Denham    20, carpenter journeyman
David Denham    20, carpenter journeyman

Address: High Street Brown's Close, Dunbar

As you know, no relationships given on the 1841 census. Everyone showing as born in the county apart from Jean.

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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:00 BST (UK) »

Mmm, maybe not the right entry. There is this one in 1851 that might be the same David

David Denham    27, carpenter journeyman, b. Dunbar
Jane Denham    25
Jane Denham    1

Address High Street, Dunbar
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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #27 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:03 BST (UK) »

Seen that one too, Monica. However, I think David shows up as married in 1851 to a Jane Lamb. They are staying in the High Street, Dunbar (as seen in my avatar! Smiley ) and next door are Janet Burns and William Denham, presumably mother and brother to David.

I did see this one in Midlothian, Elizabeth/Isabella possibly being used.

Address: Echo Bank, Liberton, Midlothian
John Denholm, m, 35, ag lab
Isabella ", f, 30
David ", m, 12
Ebenezer ", m, 10
George ", m, 8
Jean ", f, 6
Thomas ", m, 1

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #28 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:18 BST (UK) »

Here is Frances' death registration, David's 2nd wife....perhaps she had the bodies moved since her 1st husband was a Murray  Undecided

Frances E. Denham
Age:  77 years, 11 months
Date of Death:  March 19, 1916
Born:  Scotland
Place of burial:  Mt. Pleasant, London
Widow
Father:  Wilson
Mother:  blank
Cause od Death:  Arteris Sclerious
Reg. No. 021732
City of London, County of Middlesex, Ontario

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Re: family of David Denham prob born 1824 Dunbar
« Reply #29 on: Friday 13 June 08 19:43 BST (UK) »

Karen
Thanks for info on Frances...yes, maybe she needed room for herself and didn't want husband buried with first wife...who knows...
I had not had a chance to follow up on the Murray connection. Thought maybe another cemetery...but now not so sure....
Good thinking on your part.

I am in New Jersey...

We have one gal working with us from Windsor Ontario but she is related to a family that marries into the Lukes, or we married into hers...that is Isabella and Esther's mother, Isabella Fairbairn...

I am wondering if you can find anything on their brother Alexander Luke who may also have been in Canada. Born 1836 in Coldstream and emigrated in Nov 1853. I can't find him in Detroit etc.
The mother, Isabella Luke states in her will that the children are living in Detroit. She died in 1856...but they obviously moved around after that.
My guy, their brother Thomas, went to Minnesota and then California and died in Washington State.

thanks again so much
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