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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:14 BST (UK) »

Frederick William Howsego is a bit tricky, I can't find a birth for him or an appearance on any census...

There is a Frederick Housego with dad George born 1869 in Norfolk on the 1881 census, birth is a little earlier than I'd have wanted but he could have been lenient with the truth on his marriage cert, do you want the details?
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:15 BST (UK) »

Toni, does that George have a son called Frederick?
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:16 BST (UK) »

Yes please that would be great, i know what you mean about the ages, most of the certificates i have for my Buckley family they always lie about their ages!

Thank you so much for this i massively appreciate it!!
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:23 BST (UK) »

1881

Lundy Green, Hempnall, Norfolk

George Housego, head, 50, Ag Lab
Mary Housego, wife, 50
Edgar Housego, son, 21, Ag Lab
Rebecca Housego, dau, 16
Frederic Housego, son, 12
Mary Housego, dau, , 7, scholar

All born Hempnall excpet Mary (wife) who was born in Heckingham
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:25 BST (UK) »

Hmmmmm I don't think the Norfolk Frederick is yours, his birth record doesn't have the William middle name, however that may have been added at a later date....

There is a  1875 birth for a Frederick William Housego in Mile End though.... but I can't see him on any census
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:29 BST (UK) »

Don't know whether these Howsegos will tie in with yours but love the last child's name!  Obviously had a a sense of humour Grin (think it should be Arthur, as, in 1852, theres a death registration for an Arthur Howsego in Westbourne)


William Howsego 47 Farm Lab All born Westbourne Sussex
Emilly 47
Fredrick 18 Farm Lab
George 16 Farm Lab
Ann 12 Scholar
Ellan 10 Scholar
Eliza 8 Scholar
Caroline 5 Scholar
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HO107/1655 Folio 195 Page 23
Westbourne Sussex
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:30 BST (UK) »

That one sounds quite good doesnt it because that would match the age a bit nearer for his marriage
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:36 BST (UK) »

Back to the Morris side,

Here is David and Elizabeth in 1871

David Morris, head, 28, coachman domestic, born Sawbridgeworth, Herts
Elizabeth Morris, wife, 32, born Silsoe, Beds
Frank Morris, son, 5, born Grovernor Sei, London
Alice Morris, dau, born Pluckley, Kent
Emily Elizabeth Morris, dau, 1, born Silsoe, Beds
Annie Morris, dau, under 1 month, born Debden, Essex

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YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:40 BST (UK) »

And David Morris in 1861 with his ma and pa

Rook End, Sawbridgeworth

Abel Morris, head, 60, Ag Lab
Mary Morris, wife, 56,
David Morris, son, 19, Ag Lab
Margaret Morris, dau, 13, scholar

All born Sawbridgeworth
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:42 BST (UK) »

This is excellent.

I have just found William Frederick's (Frederick William) - what a nightmare! grave.  He is buried in a public grave in Manor Park cemetary, East London, He was buried on 17 Dec 1923.  But because it is a public grave, unless he died at the same time as someone else in the family, they wont be together, how sad  Sad
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:48 BST (UK) »

Awww that's sad, but at least you know where he rests.

Here is David and co. in 1851...

Rook End, Sawbridgeworth

Stephen Morris, head, 80, widow, Ag Lab
Abel Morris, lodger, 50, married, Ag Lab
Mary Morris, wife, 46, married
Joseph Morris, son, 21, Ag Lab
Thomas Morris, son, 16, Ag Lab
Hannah Morris, dau, 12, Scholar
David Morris, son, 8, Scholar
Julia Morris, dau, 6
Margaret Morris, dau, 2
John Fish, lodger, 22, Ag Lab
Harriot Fish, wife, 16

All born Sawbridgeworth
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:50 BST (UK) »

OMG im totally speechless, i feel really thick now, i never seem to find anything!!

Im doing the Howsego side for my great uncle, his the only Howsego left in our family now, i'll be ringing him tonight with all of this info, he will be so pleased!!

Thank you so so much!!!  Wink Grin
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:55 BST (UK) »

1841...

Tharbys End, Sawbridgeworth

Stephen Morris, 70, Ag lab
Abel Morris, 35, Ag Lab
Joseph Morris, 10
Thomas Morris, 5
William Morris, 15
Mary Morris, 35
Jane Morris, 15
Harriet Morris, 5
Hannah Morris, 2

All born in Herts
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 12 June 08 15:06 BST (UK) »

And there was me thinking that finding a David Morris was going to be hard, obviously not!!  Shocked
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Re: Having a nightmare - Howsego/Housego
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 12 June 08 15:07 BST (UK) »

I think this is David Morris' wife and family in 1851 (this is the only Elizabeth I can find born in Herts at approx the right time)

Green Something Huh Cottage, Great Hadham
George Rowley, head, 34, Ag Lab
Harriet Rowley, wife, 35
Mary Rowley, dau, 14
George Rowley, son, 8
Emily Rowley, dau, 6
Elizabeth Rowley, dau, 4
Jane Rowley, dau, 2
Eliza Rowley, dau, 1 month

All born in Great Hadham except Harriet (wife) who was born in Sawbridgeworth

I think on later censuses after Elizabeth married David her birth place should be Hadham not Wadham, H and W can be easily confused in old handwriting

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