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Mariner Help!!
« on: Saturday 14 June 08 14:51 BST (UK) »
Hi All!

I thought I was doing well tracing one of my relatives who was a mariner.
I found his ticket number in BT 114 and then his Register in BT113.
How ever I am having trouble working out what all the numbers mean on the BT113 document. I tried to include the document but it wont send for some reason!!
Can anyone help me translate what all these numbers mean?

Also is there any further information i can gain on him?
His name is Stephen Richardson B: 1797 in Keswick. Ticket no: 60,849.
In the 1861 census he is living in Maryport and I have found his wife and kids in Maryport in the 1851 census. I pressume he will be on a voyage.

Also, what I really want to know is the name of any ships he travelled on. Is this possible to work out?

Many thanks

Chris

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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 June 08 20:31 BST (UK) »
I have managed to down load the relevant section of BT113.
Any help to decipher what this all means would be appreciated.

Thanks

chris


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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 June 08 19:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Boltonmets,

Sorry I cannot answer your question, but please could you advise me on how to go about finding
someone as you seem to have the hang of it.
All I know is that Peter Frederick Callison and maybe his father also a Peter were around Tynemouth
Northumberland 1842-1856 and were recorded as mariners, but were never on the census with the family.
I know I have to go to London to national archives any help would be most appreciated.     

Regards

Sirius
Callison Callesen

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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 07:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Sirius,

First of all I had to get the relavant mans ticket number, e.g. In my case 60,849. This was gained by applying to the NA for the document BT114. You send off giving the details you have on your man i.e Name, place of birth, etc. When this document comes back check through to find your man. It will state name,place of birth and ticket Number. This is what you need!!!
Then take this ticket number and apply for your mans details in the document BT113. This then gives you what I have scanned and show in my link above.
I love all the detail on the left hand side!! But not sure what ALL the numbers mean. Some relate to journeys eg the number 112 relates to the port Maryport which is where my man was living but not sure on the numbers further down. I think they could be numbers relating to the boats he travelled on but cant find out on the internet and no one has given me any advice on that yet!!

Hope this helps

Chris
ps let me know how you get on!

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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 08:18 BST (UK) »
How much did it cost to get the relevant number from the NA?
Kooky
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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 12:58 BST (UK) »
Thats the thing both are only a one page document so I think they were only 40p/80p each plus postage!  Bargain!!!

Chris

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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 21:56 BST (UK) »

Thanks for reply Boltonmets,

One big problem I don't know where they were born the rumour in the family is they came from Denmark this is what I am trying to find out.
Peter Frederick had a brother John he is down as being born in the cape of good hope South Africa
around 1818 on the 1851 census.

Thanks again for your help

Regards

Sirius
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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 22:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Sirius,

That birth would tie in with the father Peter being a mariner ie children could be born abroad!
I have just checked out how many Callison are in the 1841 and 1851 Census's and it isnt a very common name. I would still send off any details you do have and check out what you get back.(you only need the name but other information will help pin point your man.) There wont be many Callisons recorded as mariners so I think this could give you the lead you require. ie BT114 will state where your man was born!! You would also get on the same page all Callisons. This could give you leads with any others that are Mariners.
BUY BT114!! It will definately help you I think!!


Regards

Chris


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Re: Mariner Help!!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 20:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much Boltonmets,

Yes Callison is not a very common name sometimes it was Calleson,but that is normal with any
name you are looking for.
Sorry for my ignorance, but I always thought you had to go to the NA at Kew in person and look at
the film like the family records centre in London do you apply online for BT114 or write in ?

Regards

Sirius
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