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An Idea: Genealogical Time Line
« on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:25 UTC (UK) »

I thought it might be a good idea to start a chronological list of events that are relevant in our research, a quick reference to important dates.  It would look something like this;

1538 - Parish registers are started.

1837 - 1 July.  Civil registration started.

1841 - 6 June.  Census night.

1851 - 30 March.  Census night.

1861 - 7 April.  Census night.

1866 - June quarter.  Age at death included on GRO index.

1871 - 2 April.  Census night.

1881 - 3 April.  Census night.

1891 - 5 April.  Census night.

1901 - 31 March.  Census night.

1911 - Sept. quarter.  Mothers maiden name included on GRO birth index.

1912 - March quarter.  Spouses surname included on GRO marriage index.

1969 - Date of birth included on GRO death index.

I would start a new thread if Rootschatters thought this would be helpful & ask the moderator to make it 'sticky'.  Other Rootschatters could PM me with their findings & I would update the thread.

What do you all think?  I know I'm always ploughing through books, papers & magazines looking for these dates, I think it would be helpful if they were all in one place.

jane


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Re: An Idea
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:29 UTC (UK) »

A good idea for knowing what records to search for but not everyone is looking for English records (at least I'm guessing these dates are for England).
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:33 UTC (UK) »

Yes, they're English records but we could include Welsh, Scottish & Irish records or make a separate chapter for those on the same thread,

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Re: An Idea
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Might be better broken down under each thread. Many times people post requests for records that simply don't exist and a list might help them to know what is and isn't available.
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:48 UTC (UK) »

 Undecided  Sorry, aghadowey, I must be thick or something  Roll Eyes as I don't understand what you mean, please explain,

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Re: An Idea
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane,

"to give the child a name .....", what you are suggesting is a genealogical Time Line

Probably it would be easiest to add a bit more text, with seperate lines for events in any country (UK, USA, Canada, Scotland, Ireland, etc, etc  ..... ) ....

1538 - Parish registers started in England and Wales

1837 - 1 July.  Civil registration starts for England and Wales

1841 - 6 June.  Census night in England and Wales

1851 - 30 March.  Census night in England and Wales.

1855 - Huh   Civil registration starts in Scotland
etc,


I would go one step further:

If people like the idea of a Genealogical Time Line, they could add various items here, to this topic, and I could summarise them in a

Genealogical Time Line  for the RootsChat Reference Library

rather than having "yet another sticky" on various boards.

Bob




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Re: An Idea
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:10 UTC (UK) »

Excellent idea Jane ... and good that Bob can put it in the 'right' place for all of us to find. 

Can someone list/add the Canada and US censuses, please ... and their dates ...
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Great idea Bob.

Jane-
Might be better broken down under each thread. Many times people post requests for records that simply don't exist and a list might help them to know what is and isn't available.
To give a few examples-
1. request for birth certificate for person born 1850s in Ireland (civil registration of births started 1864 in Ireland).
2. request to look someone up in 1890 U.S. census (destroyed by fire long ago)
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:19 UTC (UK) »

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Might be better broken down under each thread.

There is a USING THIS BOARD topic on most counties and countries.
If we decide to go ahead with this, then we could always add a line to these "How to  .." topics, with the 'Time Line' address, rather than adding a new sticky topic. 

Many newcomers (and regulars) don't read them anyway, but at least we can say "we tried"  Grin

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Re: An Idea
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:41 UTC (UK) »

English/Welsh censuses:
10 Mar 1801 No longer exists, with a few exceptions
27 May 1811 No longer exists, with a few exceptions
28 May 1821 No longer exists, with a few exceptions
30 May 1831 No longer exists, with a few exceptions

19 June 1921 100 year closure
26 April 1931 Destroyed during WW2
29 September 1939 WW2 National Registration - 100 year closure
8 April 1951 100 year closure
23 April 1961 100 year closure
25 April 1971 100 year closure
5 April 1981 100 year closure
21 April 1991 100 year closure
29 April 2001 100 year closure

incidently, while you're waiting, I think most of the english/welsh dates are
already in  Census UK, Dates in the
RootsChat Reference Library => Lexicon (click here)

Bob
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:58 UTC (UK) »

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request to look someone up in 1890 U.S. census (destroyed by fire long ago)

That explains why I couldn't find it.  Roll Eyes

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Re: An Idea
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 June 08 16:59 UTC (UK) »

I would find it really useful to have on easy access the census dates, it would help no end when trying to work out when ancestors were born etc.

But none of these helps such as lexicon are much use unless there is an obvious link to them which is why I have a very large list of rootschat bookmarks.  Smiley

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Re: An Idea
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 June 08 17:56 UTC (UK) »

Aghadowey, thanks I now understand what you were getting at  Smiley

Bob, thanks for your input.  I bow to your superior expertise on these matters as you've done this so many times before.  I had wanted to avoid giving a moderator extra work but if you're willing to take this on & put it in the reference library......... Kiss

How to we proceed from here?

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Re: An Idea: Genealogical Time Line
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 June 08 18:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane, and everybody else,

just keep adding any dates here that you think are important enough to go in the time line, and I'll carry on from there ..... probably next week end, when I next have a bit of spare time  Smiley

so far we have some dates for

start of parish records
start of civil registration
additions to civil registration certs.
censuses

Anything at all along these lines, which is often being asked
"when did they start ..... ", "when was .... ", etc.

Bob

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Jane,
I've modified the title to help it stand out more  Smiley
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Re: An Idea
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 June 08 18:19 UTC (UK) »

...so you will put it all together in one chronological list to be viewed in the reference library?  Sounds good to me & should be helpful, thanks Bob  Smiley

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