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sarahsean
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Can anyone tell me how i can research an American marriage?
My grt-uncle emigrated to the USA from Hants possibly pre WW2 possibly post WW2. (My own father`s family emigrated to Canada in 1945 but i am pretty sure that he emigrated before them). I think he married in New York.
Any free info would be appreciated!
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Sarah
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aghadowey
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Unless it's your marriage or you are next-of-kin I think you will not be able to get New York marriage. I'm sure someone here will be able to say if I'm correct.
First thing would be to find when great uncle actually left the U.K.:
www.findmypast.com for people leaving U.K. 1890-1960.
There are also some passenger lists for N.Y. on Ancestry, etc.
Social Security Death Index available at: www.familysearch.org
If he's not alive you could post name and date of birth or any other details which might help identify him here and we might be able to find something.
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sarahsean
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Thanks had a look at the things mentioned but am really unsure of the details.
Ok so if anyone can help my great uncles name was Percy Butt born 1907, Romsey. He married a Kate do not know surname and had changed his name to Percy Budd on arrival in America. He died in 1986 in Victoria, BC,Canada.
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Sarah
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shellyesq
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I found a Percy Budd in the 1930 Census at 100 West 98th Street, Manhattan, New York City. He was 23 years old, single, born England, parents born England, immigrated 1926, working as a driver for a milk company, and not a veteran. He was a lodger living with a family of Elizabeth Butt, a 53 year old widow and her children Lena, Arthur, and Queenie (?). The Butts were all born in England and immigrated in 1928.
Any chance Percy worked on ships? I found a passenger list for the SS Orduna from 21 Jun 1926 which has a Percy Butt, age 20, who worked as a scullion and, on the list for the same ship, there was a P. Butt, age 19, listed as a deserting seaman. I see some later lists that have a Percy E. Budd working on ships who fits his age.
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sarahsean
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Thanks for this,
Do you know i think this could be him. His mother was Elizabeth however i thought her husband had died in 1935. He had a sister Queenie, a brother Arthur and my grandmother was Ivy Lena known as Lena.
There was a family story that he had jumped ship to America and that was why he changed his name but as I only met him once when i was young i never got to ask him if it were true.
I thought my grandmother, her mother and brother had emigrated to Canada after the second world war as my father was born in the UK in 1938, so i am surprised to learn they were in the US in the 1930`s. Perhaps my grandmother returned to the UK her sister Queenie certainly did as she was living in the UK as an old woman, then re-emigrated as Elizabeth and Arthur went to live in Canada with her.
Hope I haven`t bored you too much with this detail
Thanks again
Sarah
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shellyesq
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Detail is good! 
I'm having trouble seeing the images at the moment, but it appears that Queenie Butt, born abt. 1915, and Ivy L.K. Butt, born abt. 1908, traveled on the SS Aquitania from Southampton to New York, arriving 1 Dec 1928. It looks like we may have a match there. It's a bit odd that Percy was listed in the census as a lodger if he were a son, but maybe the change in last name had the census taker confused.
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sarahsean
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That is them all right, thanks so much can`t wait to share this info with my sister!
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Sarah
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shellyesq
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I finally got the image of the passenger list to open for me. There is:
Butt, Elizabeth, age 52, female, married, housewife, born London, immigration visa number Q-2626, issued London 1-11-28, last permanent residence - London, nearest relative - John Nethaway, 116 Portman Bldgs., Marlyebone, final destination - New York, N.Y., passage paid by self, in possession of $1500, never been to US before, going to join friend Mrs. Murphy, 363 West 50 St., New York City, intending to stay permanently and become a US citizen, 5 feet tall, fair complexion, brown hair and eyes
Butt, Ivy L.K., age 20, female, single, occupation: shop assistant, born Southampton, immigration visa number Q-2629, issued London 1-11-28, last permanent residence - London, nearest relative - uncle John Nethaway, five feet four inches tall, fair complexion, brown hair and eyes
Butt, Queenie C., age 13, female, single, scholar, born Southampton, immigration visa number Q-2628, issued London 1-11-28, last permanent residence - London, nearest relative - uncle John Nethaway, five feet tall, fair complexion, auburn hair, grey eyes
Butt, Arthur L., age 16, male, single, occupation: page boy, born Southampton, immigration visa number Q-2627, issued London 1-11-28, last permanent residence - London, nearest relative - uncle John Nethaway, five feet four inches tall, fair complexion, brown hair and eyes
Do you know what Percy's middle name was? There's a Percy Ernest Budd who was naturalized in NY in 1944 at age 38.
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sarahsean
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Thank you so much for this email! It helps with my search for my great-grandmother, my sister and i did not know where she came from but you have provided that information for us! Thanks again. It was lovely to read about my grandmother to.
Percy`s father was Ernest I don`t know his middle name but i presume that is he.
Is there any wife listed? I would love to know her name.
Also can i ask is there a census for the 1940's? Could you look up Elizabeth and family for me, i know Queenie and Lena returned to the UK in the 1930's but did the others?
If you need any help looking for any family in the UK or Ireland let me know
Thanks again you have made my day!
Sarah
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shellyesq
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The 1940 Census won't be released until 2012.
The petition for naturalization says:
Budd, Percy Ernest
residing at 312 W. 47th St., New York, N.Y.
Age 38 years, Date of order of admission: Aug. 24, 1944
Date certificate issued: Aug. 24, 1944 by the U.S. District Court at New York City, N.Y.
Petition No. 492884
It has his signature, so I can try to post the image later if you want.
There are passenger list entries for Percy E. Budd working on ships from 1944-1947. There's not a lot of detail given, but it says his race was English, he was a naturalized US citizen, and was 5 feet 11 inches tall and 175 or 180 pounds.
Don't know if you've seen this, but there's an entry on the Social Security Death Index for Percy Budd born 24 Feb 1906 and died Aug 1986. His last residence was Seattle, Washington (which is fairly close to British Columbia). His social security number was issued in New York before 1951.
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sarahsean
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Thanks for that, it is hard to know what census are available when. In the Uk the latest census we can see is 1901, whilst here in Ireland where i live it is 1911. Neither would have been any use for me to track my great uncle.
Thanks again for the help by the way. I didn't realise he lived in Seattle I thought it was Victoria but family had settled there in Seattle also.
It would be nice to see the signature if you can get it but only if it is not too much trouble.
If i can help you in anyway let me know
Good luck with your search happy hunting.
Sarah
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shellyesq
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I also found a passenger list for the SS Queen Elizabeth from Southampton to New York for 11 Jan 1946 with Arthur and his family, Elizabeth, and Lena and her family. Since some of the younger folks listed may be living, I'll send it to you via private message.
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