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Dear Chatters,
I was wondering if someone could please find the births ( and possible deaths) for the following children. I found this information on the Colonial Tasmanian Family Links database but there are some discrepencies with the information I have so I would like to get the actual birth certificates.
17711 BROWNE MARY AUGUSTA 1842 17710 BROWNE KATHERINE FRANCES 1843 17709 BROWNE JOSEPH STEERE 1845 17707 BROWNE M 1847 ( I believe this is Marriot) 17708 BROWNE FREDERICK WILLIAM 1847 17706 BROWNE PHILIP JOHN 1850 17705 BROWNE JAMES ERNEST 1852 ( I have him as James Arthur on all other records, including marriage certificate)
The parents are Thomas Browne and Catherine Jemott ( I have made previous postings about the Jemott family)
Also if anyone could help me with shipping records for this family leaving Tasmania in the late 1850's to go to Queensland I would love to find them. Again we are trying to sort out conflicting stories. I am under the belief that the family went to Queensland after the father Thomas Browne died in Canada ( he was a soldier in active duty there) but there is the possibility that this information is not correct and that Thomas Browne actually went to Queensland with the family. Either way the family actually ended up in Queensland around this time.
Please help - I am confused. 
Cheers Michelle
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johngirl
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I found the following.
Mary Augusta born 31/3/1842 RDG 186/1842. Oatlands
Katherine Frances born 29/9/1843 RDG 234/1843. Oatlands
Joseph Steere 15/6/1845 RDG 287/1845. Oatlands
Male Browne born 25/4/1847 RDG 335/1847 Oatlands . Frederick William born 25/4/1847 RDG 335/1847 Oatlands
Phillip John born 17/9/1850 RDG 609/1850 Tasman
.James Ernest born 11/4/1852 RDG 625/1853 Tasman
Phillip John registered under the name Thomas Browne and Katherina Jemott.
Frederick William and Male child [twins].
Sorry but haven`t found any shipping records for them.
Johngirl 
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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales. FREEMAN -England? MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales. ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England . FRAZIER-FRAZER- England. DEAL -Ireland . KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England. BLACBERRY -Whitechapel . CONDON -Brighton England. DUFFY-Brighton England BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England JONES England?  [George] ROSE-England
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Thank you John girl. I will get the certificates to try and help out with my confusion but it matches what I have.
Thanks for trying on the shipping records too. I am trying as well so hopefully we'll come up with something soon.
Appreciate your help.
Warm Regards Michelle
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Thanks for the website address Sue. I will take a look now. I had looked at the queensland site before but had missed the Thomas Marryatt one. I have a feeling that Frederick William named one of his children with the middle name Marryatt ( possibly in honour of his twin brother??)
I guess I was trying to check if the male son ( twin) died in Tasmania as a baby or if I was correct in believing he lived. It was just odd that he was not named in the birth records but his brother was. Also another researcher of this family felt that he had died. My grandmother has newspaper obituaries for Marriot, I am sure, having died as an adult. I will recheck with her.
Thanks again for looking for me. I am going to relook at the Qld BDM now.
Warm Regards Michelle
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Hi, I am not sure about this, but there will certainly be someone who can clarify it.....BUT, I would expect that twins would have consecutive registration numbers, not identical. Afterall, they are 2 identities. I do know that this is the case in the UK system.
It may possibly be simply a duplicate entry. Sue
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Parrett:Woolwich,Newington,Bermondsey,Plumstead,Middlesex, West Ham. Evans: Bermondsey. Mason: Stepney, Sydney {Aust} Disney:West Ham. Cornish: Hull {UK} to Tasmania {Aust.} to Victoria {Aust} Catchpole: Sweeting:
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Fantastic!!! Thanks so much for that. He must have been known as Marryatt, rather than Thomas. I will double check on that though to make sure he is the Marriot I believed to be the twin.
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I also replied to the last post but it didn't come up so I must have done something wrong. Sorry. I hadn't noticed that the reference number was the same for Frederick and male - thanks for pointing that out. There were definitely twins though so it will be interesting to get the certificate to confirm it ( or deny me my beliefs? ). I wonder why they have the same registration? I definitely have to get my hands on my grandmothers box of tricks about family and at least photocopy what is in there rather than relying on my visits to Queensland to go through the box. Would make much more sense.
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I have just rechecked the Registration numbers for Frederick William Browne and his sibling born the same day. I left out an A in the registation for Frederick William Browne. It should read as follows.
FREDERICK WILLIAM BROWN born 25/5/1847 RGD 335A/1847 OATLANDS.
NAME UNKNOWN. MALE born 25/4/1847 RDG 335/1847 OATLANDS.
Sorry Johngirl
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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales. FREEMAN -England? MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales. ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England . FRAZIER-FRAZER- England. DEAL -Ireland . KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England. BLACBERRY -Whitechapel . CONDON -Brighton England. DUFFY-Brighton England BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England JONES England?  [George] ROSE-England
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Thanks Sue. That makes sense to me now. Will let you all know how I go once I have the certificates.
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So So So Sorry about that.I can check the Baptism Record for the Oatlands District next time I go to the Archives. They may have the baptism record for the unamed but named at the time of the baptism if you understand my meaning. Some children were not named in the records of birth but named when they were Baptised.
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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales. FREEMAN -England? MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales. ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England . FRAZIER-FRAZER- England. DEAL -Ireland . KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England. BLACBERRY -Whitechapel . CONDON -Brighton England. DUFFY-Brighton England BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England JONES England?  [George] ROSE-England
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Hi, Bit of an aside. I have a friend who did not know she was having twins until the delivery doctor said, "Hold on, there is another one!." Now, this was as recently as the 1980's
It strikes me that this could very well have been the situation in this case and they simply needed time to think of a name for a second boy!
Sue
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Parrett:Woolwich,Newington,Bermondsey,Plumstead,Middlesex, West Ham. Evans: Bermondsey. Mason: Stepney, Sydney {Aust} Disney:West Ham. Cornish: Hull {UK} to Tasmania {Aust.} to Victoria {Aust} Catchpole: Sweeting:
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