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Tasmanian Browne Family
« on: Monday 16 June 08 00:27 BST (UK) »

Dear Chatters,

I was wondering if someone could please find the births ( and possible deaths) for the following children. I found this information on the Colonial Tasmanian Family Links database but there are some discrepencies with the information I have so I would like to get the actual birth certificates.

17711  BROWNE MARY AUGUSTA 1842
17710  BROWNE KATHERINE FRANCES 1843
17709  BROWNE JOSEPH STEERE 1845
17707  BROWNE M 1847  ( I believe this is Marriot)
17708  BROWNE FREDERICK WILLIAM 1847
17706  BROWNE PHILIP JOHN 1850
17705  BROWNE JAMES ERNEST 1852 ( I have him as James Arthur on all other records, including marriage certificate)

The parents are Thomas Browne and Catherine Jemott ( I have made previous postings about the Jemott family)

Also if anyone could help me with shipping records for this family leaving Tasmania in the late 1850's to go to Queensland I would love to find them. Again we are trying to sort out conflicting stories. I am under the belief that the family went to Queensland after the father Thomas Browne died in Canada ( he was a soldier in active duty there) but there is the possibility that this information is not correct and that Thomas Browne actually went to Queensland with the family. Either way the family actually ended up in Queensland around this time.

Please help - I am confused. Huh Wink

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Michelle
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 June 08 01:47 BST (UK) »

I found the following.

Mary Augusta born 31/3/1842  RDG 186/1842.   Oatlands

Katherine Frances born 29/9/1843 RDG 234/1843.  Oatlands

Joseph Steere 15/6/1845    RDG 287/1845.  Oatlands

Male Browne born 25/4/1847    RDG 335/1847  Oatlands
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Frederick William born 25/4/1847    RDG 335/1847  Oatlands

Phillip John born 17/9/1850    RDG 609/1850  Tasman

.James Ernest born 11/4/1852   RDG 625/1853  Tasman 

Phillip John registered under the name Thomas Browne and Katherina Jemott.

Frederick William and Male child [twins].

Sorry but haven`t found any shipping records for them.

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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 June 08 03:21 BST (UK) »

Thank you John girl. I will get the certificates to try and help out with my confusion but it matches what I have.

Thanks for trying on the shipping records too. I am trying as well so hopefully we'll come up with something soon.

Appreciate your help.

Warm Regards
Michelle
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 June 08 08:14 BST (UK) »



Hi chell
(and possible deaths)

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/DeaIndexQry.m

Search here and you will find the deaths of some sons.  I saw Federick William, 1911 & Philip John 1923

The one you think to be Marriot....

Is indexed Thomas MARRYATT. died 1919

You may find marriages to if that is of interest.

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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 June 08 08:46 BST (UK) »

Hi
On this thread where you have sought similar information on the family, you mention that Catherine left Tas. for Qld. with her brother John JEMOTT [E].

http://boards.ancestry.com.au/topics.researchresources.lookups.australia/159/mb.ashx

His death is recorded in Qld.

Presumably you do not have this information, otherwise you would also have the death information for the sons which I have located above.
JOHN's death being from the same searchable website which I have given you  ..Qld bmd...

Sue
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 June 08 08:55 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the website address Sue. I will take a look now. I had looked at the queensland site before but had missed the Thomas Marryatt one. I have a feeling that Frederick William named one of his children with the middle name Marryatt ( possibly in honour of his twin brother??)

I guess I was trying to check if the male son ( twin) died in Tasmania as a baby or if I was correct in believing he lived. It was just odd that he was not named in the birth records but his brother was. Also another researcher of this family felt that he had died. My grandmother has newspaper obituaries for Marriot, I am sure, having died as an adult. I will recheck with her.

Thanks again for looking for me. I am going to relook at the Qld BDM now.

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Michelle
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:08 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I am not sure about this, but there will certainly be someone who can clarify it.....BUT, I would expect that twins would have consecutive registration numbers, not identical.  Afterall, they are 2 identities.  I do know that this is the case in the UK system.

It may possibly be simply a duplicate entry.
Sue
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:16 BST (UK) »

 I have a feeling that Frederick William named one of his children with the middle name Marryatt

Well, this Thomas Maryatt is the child of Thomas & Catherine.

1919/C4211.  Browne. Thomas Maryatt.  F. Thomas Browne. M. Catherine Jemotte [sic]
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:27 BST (UK) »

Fantastic!!! Thanks so much for that. He must have been known as Marryatt, rather than Thomas. I will double check on that though to make sure he is the Marriot I believed to be the twin.
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:33 BST (UK) »

I also replied to the last post but it didn't come up so I must have done something wrong. Sorry. I hadn't noticed that the reference number was the same for Frederick and male - thanks for pointing that out. There were definitely twins though  so it will be interesting to get the certificate to confirm it ( or deny me my beliefs?Huh). I wonder why they have the same registration? I definitely have to get my hands on my grandmothers box of tricks about family and at least photocopy what is in there rather than relying on my visits to Queensland to go through the box. Would make much more sense. Grin
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:39 BST (UK) »

I have just rechecked the Registration numbers for Frederick William Browne and his sibling born the same day. I left out an A in the registation for Frederick William Browne. It should read as follows.

FREDERICK WILLIAM BROWN   born   25/5/1847   RGD 335A/1847   OATLANDS.

NAME UNKNOWN. MALE   born    25/4/1847    RDG 335/1847    OATLANDS.

          Sorry Johngirl
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DEAL -Ireland .
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BLACBERRY -Whitechapel . CONDON -Brighton England.
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:41 BST (UK) »

AHH...
I think that makes all the difference!

Good on you Johngirl.
Sue
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:43 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sue. That makes sense to me now. Will let you all know how I go once I have the certificates.
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 16 June 08 09:52 BST (UK) »

So So So Sorry about that.I can check the Baptism Record for the Oatlands District next time I go to the Archives. They may have the baptism record for the unamed but named at the time of the baptism if you understand my meaning. Some children were not named in the records of birth but named when they were Baptised.

              Johngirl  Grin Grin
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BLACBERRY -Whitechapel . CONDON -Brighton England.
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Re: Tasmanian Browne Family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 June 08 10:28 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Bit of an aside.
I have a friend who did not know she was having twins until the delivery doctor said,
"Hold on, there is another one!."
Now, this was as recently as the 1980's

It strikes me that this could very well have been the situation in this case and they simply needed time to think of a name for a second boy!

Sue

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