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Gadget
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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 21 June 08 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Monica - it confirms the Burnside  Smiley

Do you know what a Twister was - I'm assuming it was something to do with cotton/linen/wool production.

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 21 June 08 21:53 UTC (UK) »

Not sure Gadget, not one I've come across but the very name does make you think of weaving etc.

I'm just trying to find them on the censuses. This is the closest I can see so far for 1841:

Jas Anderson    25, compositor, b. Scotland
Jessie Anderson 20, , b. Scotland
Anne Jeffrey    8
Wm Traser 20

Address: Paterson St, Glasgow St Pauls

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 21 June 08 21:58 UTC (UK) »

It would be nice if the two deceased parents died after 1855.

Any sign on the 1851 for either set of parents?

I'm getting squiffy/sore eyes and would be grateful for some help on them  Undecided


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MonicaLesl
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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:02 UTC (UK) »

Jessie looks to have died in 1892, age 74, in Dennistoun, Glasgow. Widow of James, a coal miner (?), father John, a xxx something weaver and mother Catherine MacDonald. Son William reported the death.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:18 UTC (UK) »

So William was still around after the marriage to Letitia - I wonder if son Robert, father of Robert (b.1890) was around at his death - it might give us some clues about what happened.

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MonicaLesl
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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:26 UTC (UK) »

 Undecided I'm struggling to find anybody in any census with any confidence at the moment - I'm jumping back and forth and nothing is coming through clearly.

From IGI, William Buchanan and Catherine Anderson, show the following children:

Robert 1863
James 1864
Jessie 1866
William 1868

I was hoping to find them in 1871 to confirm Catherine's place of birth but can't see the family with any confidence as yet.

Also cannot as yet see a household for 1851 with Catherine Anderson with either James and Jessie (Janet) or mother Janet by herself.

Monica

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:41 UTC (UK) »

In the absence of any censuses  Roll Eyes...Catherine died in 1886 in Camlachie Glasgow aged 38. Husband William reported the death. Parents James Anderson, coal miner and Jessie Burnside.

Now with info from the death certs, this is at least one confirmed census. William's address in 1891 matches the one he gave when reporting mother's death. Mother, slightly older that age reported at death:

Wm Anderson 53, Packer Cloth Warehouse, b. Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
James Anderson    17
John Anderson    15
William Anderson 7
Archd C Anderson 5
Elizabeth Anderson 1 Mo
Janet Anderson    81, mother, formerly weaver b. Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
Elizabeth Nicol (Anderson)  51, sister, formerly weaver b. Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire

Address: No 11 Annfield St, Dennistoun
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:47 UTC (UK) »

So the Twister in 1862 became a coal miner by 1886 - I come from a line of coal miners and I don't recognise the term as a mining occ.

No sign of the Buchanans? I think Lara was keen for us to follow up William Buchanan.

The only William (shoemaker) and Catherine combination that I've found so far on the 1871 are a William (34)  and Catherine (30) Buchan in Ellon,  Aberdeenshire  but it's not them  Undecided
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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:51 UTC (UK) »

I think the twister may well be miner Gadget on a clearer image  Grin

This looks like them on the 1841, with the names we now have:

James Anderson    40, coal miner
Jannet Anderson 30
James Anderson    15
William Anderson 3
Elisabeth Anderson 1

Address: Baydstan, Eastwood Renfrewshire

Regarding the Buchanans, William and Catherine's family no sign as yet. I've also checked the 1881 census on SP for Catherine and nothing is showing as yet...
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:54 UTC (UK) »

I don't think so - it's very much a Twister:

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 21 June 08 22:58 UTC (UK) »

Quote
Twister / Twisterer     Worked a machine twisting the yarns or threads Ring Frame Twister


from  http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/t.html
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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 21 June 08 23:03 UTC (UK) »

Slow down. I think we have to keep to the Buchanan's.  Lara was keen to follow William b.c. 1838 up and it's getting mixed up with Andersons. She's new to this and might wonder what is going on.

We're looking for his parents - Robert Buchanan, baker and Jane McKinlay


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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 21 June 08 23:16 UTC (UK) »

I will slow down Gadget  Shocked, time for my bed...long day tomorrow  Cool
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 22 June 08 09:10 UTC (UK) »

Listing the Buchanan line ~

Robert Buchanan b. 1890, Glasgow
Parents - Robert Buchanan(Iron turner) and Letitia/Elisha/Elizabeth Bryan/O'Brien (m. 1889, Glasgow)
Letitia died 1933. Recorded as if Robert was still alive

Robert Buchanan b.1863, Glasgow
Parents - William Buchanan (shoemaker) and Catherine Anderson (m. 1862, Glasgow)
so far this family have not been found on any of the censuses.
Catherine died 1886

William Buchanan b.c. 1838
Parents - Robert Buchanan (baker) and Jane McKinlay
so far, family have not been found on any censuses.
Robert deceased by 1862


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Re: orphanage.inverness.scotland.1890
« Reply #44 on: Monday 23 June 08 17:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gadget and Monica,and all that are helping.
Thank you very much for the latest info.Its incredible.Yes it did all get a bit behond me but now Im upto date and sorted it all out.Do you think it possible to find Robert Buchanan - (the baker)s father and Jame Mc kinlays.
Even if its possible to go farther back that would just be wonderful.
I think I have all the latest from you,the last being the listing of the Buchanan line.But at the bottom of my page it says internet explorer can show a page,so dont know if thats just a funny thing going on with my computer or if I have missed a page. Smiley
Thanks again,hope to talk to you again soon.Lara.
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