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1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« on: Friday 20 June 08 10:18 BST (UK) »

Please can someone find my 3x Gt Grandparents, Thomas & Mary PAWLETT or PAULETT on the 1851 or 1861 census please to enable me to trace their birth/baptism?

Thomas was described as a "Labourer of Deeping Fen" in the baptism records of his children which took place in Spalding between 1823 and 1838.

He was buried in Spalding in 1870 aged 89 and his wife was living in Spalding in 1881 so I'm not entirely sure where they would have been at the time of these censii, probably Deeping Fen. Thomas should have been about 70 and 80 in the 1851 and 1861 respectively and Mary 50 and 60.

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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 June 08 10:44 BST (UK) »

Thomas and Mary a bit younger than the age suggested by the 1870 death ....

1861 -  RG9/2324; Folio: 93; Page: 16 - Spalding
Deeping Road


Thos Pawlett 63  Head Ag Lab  Rutland, Empingham
Mary Pawlett 61  Wife Lincs, Swinstead
Thos Pawlett 22  son Spalding


In 1851, Mary wasnt at home, there was a daughter born in Deeping Fen tho ..

HO107/2096; Folio: 612; Page: 15 - Spalding
Deeping Road


 
Thomas Pawlett 52  Head Ag Lab Empingham

Elizabeth Pawlett 21  dau Deeping Fen
Eliza Pawlett 14  Spalding
Thomas Pawlett 12  son Spalding

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 June 08 10:48 BST (UK) »



In 1851 Mary seems to have been working away from home

HO107. P. 1747 Fol. 876 Pg. 3

in the household of Venette family, Borough Fen. Northants

Mary Pawlett  Serv. Mar  51  Nurse  B. Lincs Swinstead
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 June 08 10:53 BST (UK) »

do you want to see this family in 1841 ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 June 08 11:05 BST (UK) »

Cant see Mary in 1871 (Almshouse in 1881), but heres Thomas jnr with wife and newborn dau in 1871 ..
 
RG10/3320; Folio: 30; Page: 17 - Gosberton (Spalding District)

Lodging with the Richard Ranby family (Blacksmith)

Thomas Pawelet [sic] 29  Lodger Head Ag Lab Spalding
Ann Pawelet 24  Lodger wife Spalding
Elizabeth Ann Pawelet 1 month  Lodger daughter Spalding
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 June 08 11:45 BST (UK) »

I can't thank you enough for these. No wonder I couldn't find Thomas's baptism in Lincolnshire!

If it's no trouble I'd love to see the 1841 as well

Thank you so much

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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 June 08 11:52 BST (UK) »

HO107/610/6; Spalding; District: 4; Folio: 10; Page: 13

'Spalding Common'



All indicate that they were born in County - but as you saw, 1851/61 says Thomas wasnt.
 
Thomas Pawlett 40  Ag Lab
Mary Pawlett 40 
Elizabeth Pawlett 18 
Jane Pawlett 12 
Ann Pawlett 9 
Eliza Pawlett 6 
Thomas Pawlett 2 
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 June 08 11:57 BST (UK) »

Possible marriage-
25 June 1822 Bourne
Thomas PAULET to Mary MORLEY
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 June 08 12:00 BST (UK) »

My many thanks to you all for taking the time and trouble, it is much appreciated.

Brenda
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 June 08 12:07 BST (UK) »

I can't see the baptism of Mary MORLEY ... but there was a William MORLEY bap at Swinstead in 1796, son of John and Rhody ... perhaps they were the John MORLEY and Rhoda PECK who married at Edenham in 1787.

I see your couple had a daughter called Rhoda in 1827.  She was buried at Spalding in 1849 aged 22.  A William PAWLETT was buried there in 1839 aged 13.
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 20 June 08 13:47 BST (UK) »

I can't see the baptism of Mary MORLEY ... but there was a William MORLEY bap at Swinstead in 1796, son of John and Rhody ... perhaps they were the John MORLEY and Rhoda PECK who married at Edenham in 1787.

I see your couple had a daughter called Rhoda in 1827.  She was buried at Spalding in 1849 aged 22.  A William PAWLETT was buried there in 1839 aged 13.

Hello Geoff

Where did you get this info from?

No, I can't find Mary's baptism either although I'm sure she is the daughter of John & Rhoda Morley. I have found baptisms of 8 siblings for Mary though.

I have also found John & Rhoda's marriage in 1787. Interesting that you should state Rhoda's surname as Peck. Again where did you get that from? I read it as Peeck which I'm sure is not right - maybe it should be Peak or Peake? Or maybe Peck?

Thank you for Rhoda's burial in 1849, do you have the full date?

I have ordered a settlement certificate dated 1793  for John & Rhoda which I'm hoping will give me more info, but somehow I doubt it. I'm trying to find John's place of birth, I'm sure I've found his baptism in Bicker in 1755 but have no proof, just gut instinct.

Thanks very much for your input.

Brenda
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Re: 1851 0r 1861 Census Look Up Request
« Reply #11 on: Friday 20 June 08 14:21 BST (UK) »

National Burial Index
21 May 1849 Rhoda PAWLETT (22)
3 Feb 1838 William PAWLETT (13)
both at Spalding

Re John MORLEY of Bicker 1755 .... he was buried there 30 Sept 1825 (70) and apparently fathered children there in the 1790s, so perhaps not your chap (IGI Batch C025371)

"My marriage index" has PECK as a transcription, I haven't seen original.  Perhaps she was Mary PECK of Bourne (1770) ... perhaps Edenham register would show she was a minor at time of marriage.

I have just found a burial
31 March 1836 Swinstead, John MORLEY (78)  ... Swinstead burials in NBI start at 1813 - perhaps Rhoda died before then.
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National Burial Index
21 May 1849 Rhoda PAWLETT (22)
3 Feb 1838 William PAWLETT (13)
both at Spalding

Re John MORLEY of Bicker 1755 .... he was buried there 30 Sept 1825 (70) and apparently fathered children there in the 1790s, so perhaps not your chap (IGI Batch C025371)

"My marriage index" has PECK as a transcription, I haven't seen original.  Perhaps she was Mary PECK of Bourne (1770) ... perhaps Edenham register would show she was a minor at time of marriage.

I have just found a burial
31 March 1836 Swinstead, John MORLEY (78)  ... Swinstead burials in NBI start at 1813 - perhaps Rhoda died before then.

Thank you again, Geoff

Looks like John of Bicker is not mine. Back to the drawing board with that one. However, I do think it likely the one buried in Swinstead in 1836 is mine so IF the burial age is correct I've got to look around 1758.

As for his & Rhoda's marriage, I have a copy of the register page in front of me, she was not a minor, unfortunately the witness names don't help but it definitely says PEECK. I read that to be Peake and since last writing to you have found a baptism in 1764 in Gunby of a Rhoda Peake d/o Thomas & Rhoda. I have followed the search through & 2 generations further back Rhoda's grandparents had a son named Luis - John & Rhoda named a son Lewis. So I think I may be on the right track but this is all conjecture at the moment, I cannot rely on IGI, so I think I have a lot of spade work to do.

Thanks again, Geoff. You have certainly been a great help.

Brenda
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