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paulb1
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Hi,
I'm trying to find the burial details of Joseph Whitfield who died between 1851 and 1861 either Northumberland or Durham. I noticed a few entries on Free Bmd for hexham and Weardale, but as ages were not recorded it is hard to pinpoint the right Joseph. The national burial index may give ages. Joseph was most likely born around 1784. Any help would be appreciated.
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Paul.
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Ruskie
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Hi Paul,
If nobody comes to your rescue, you may find this useful:
http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/
You register and search for free, but pay a minimum of £5 for credits to view the records. Each record only costs a few pence so it's quite good value. Save or copy your searches as you go, as they take them off you after 30 days.
Another site which you can search for free but pay to view (but not such good value):
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/
This is also useful:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03e3/
Under the heading Vital Records you'll find Durham Bishop's Transcripts. These are useful if you know the parish of b,m or d, otherwise it's a slow trawl through the records (some bits are missing, mixed up and duplicated .... ).
There are quite a few Whitfields in the Durham/Northumberland area (I have Whitfields in Durham) and some of them are documented. Where was your Joseph born? Do you know who his parents are? Do you have him or his family in any censuses? (Just wondering if your Whitfields connect with mine  )
Regards,
Ruskie
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paulb1
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Hi,
Joseph was last living with his daughter in Leadgate in the 1851 census. No trace of him in the 1861 census - I suspect he died. Joseph was born in Catton Allendale. His parents were John Whitfield and Elizabeth Temperley of Allendale.
Thanks for your help,
Paul.
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Ruskie
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Hi again Paul,
Have you tried a simple google search? Try "Joseph Whitfield" "Allendale" and there are several hits.
There are a few people on rootsweb with Joseph Whitfields in their trees:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03om/
None appears to be a perfect match with yours but it may be worth contacting them in case they know of your Joseph. For example, someone has a Joseph chr 13 August 1783 Allendale, and dying in Huntwell Allendale (but no date). Another person has what appears to be the same Joseph buried 12 Apr 1848 St Peters Allendale (I know yours is still alive then  ).
I've found a bit of confusion with my Whitfields, and I'm not convinced by many of the things on other's trees. This may be the case with Joseph too - there are a lot of them around the same area at the same time, so a lot of possibilities for errors.
Alternatively there is someone doing a Whitfield one name study:
http://www.one-name.org/
She may be able to help you.
I still have some research to do, but suspect that my Whitfield line will lead to Northumberland eventually .
Good luck.
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paulb1
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Hi Ruskie,
Thanks for your information. I imagine your Whitfield's will eventually arrive in Northumberland. Most were situated in the Allendale and Whitfield areas, during the 1600 and 1700's. The complicating issues that you may have if this does result is that some Whitfield's were Quakers. You will need to check conformist and non-conformist registers.
I have my branch of the Whitfield's back to about the 1620's. Unfortunately the registers in the Allendale area are very bad pre the 1800's. So family connections are difficult to piece together. All the tree's published on Worldconnect and other sites pre 1800's are just assumptions and best fit scenarios ( I must say that I have found that logic and best fit does not always prevail in genealogy. I always question the most obvious). I have read most of them and they still leave me guessing - even the one by Carol Minson (who I guess is the authority on Allendale Whitfield's).
www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Allendale/TheWhitfields.html
Anyway thanks again for your assistance.
Paul.
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Ruskie
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Hi Paul,
After my last post I did a bit more investigation and discovered exactly what you've just explained.
It is strange that there seems to be so much guesswork with the various Whitfield families. I'm sure what you say is correct - someone has pieced together something which seems to fit well enough - the problem then, is that this information is reproduced by others.
Yes, I did come across Carol Minson's site when I was searching for my Thomas Whitfield. Have you contacted her about your Joseph's death?
Best of luck with your research.
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paulb1
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Hi Ruskie,
Yes I contacted Carol Minson. Her database had been lost through a computer issue, unfortunately could not help. I'm now almost certain that my Joseph's death is the 1855 Free Bmd death entry. I shall purchase the certificate and see.
All the best and thanks.
Paul.
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Ruskie
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Good luck with that certficate Paul - do let us know if it's the right one.
It's unfortunate that Carol Minson has had computer problems and was unable to help you. Oddly enough, a Whitfield researcher who I contacted also lost all their data through a computer crash, and was unable to help me either.
I do plan to eventually put pen to paper and contact the One Name Study Whitfield researcher in Hampshire. Shame she hasn't included an email address, or I'd have already done so.
Best of luck!
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