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Offline Carol22

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Why can't I sprinkle ashes
« on: Friday 20 June 08 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone tell me why it is illegal to scatter ashes on someones grave.
I rang the local cemetery to find the number of a grave, 91 yr old Mother in law has just passed and wanted to be scattered
on her Father's grave in the local cemetery,  I was told very bluntly it is illegal and they would do it for £150. I shall be sneaking down with ashes in a bag and doing it when no one is around.

Caz

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Re: WHY CAN'T I SPRINKLE ASHES
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:23 BST (UK) »
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Re: WHY CAN'T I SPRINKLE ASHES
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:23 BST (UK) »
My advice to the last person that asked this question:

What they don't know can't hurt them.

 ;)

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Re: WHY CAN'T I SPRINKLE ASHES
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:27 BST (UK) »
This is worth reading.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03o5/

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Re: WHY CAN'T I SPRINKLE ASHES
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone tell me why it is illegal to scatter ashes on someones grave.
I rang the local cemetery to find the number of a grave, 91 yr old Mother in law has just passed and wanted to be scattered
on her Father's grave in the local cemetery,  I was told very bluntly it is illegal and they would do it for £150. I shall be sneaking down with ashes in a bag and doing it when no one is around.

Caz

Thats a good idea. If she wasn't cremated, they would easily allow your family to bury her in the grave, so why not allow you to scatter her ashes there?

Stephen :)
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Re: WHY CAN'T I SPRINKLE ASHES
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:32 BST (UK) »
What are the normal options for disposal of cremated remains?

All crematoria provide a Garden of Remembrance where cremated remains can be dispersed. Some crematoria provide niches where containers may be placed for limited periods. Cremated remains can be removed from the crematorium in a suitable container for disposal elsewhere. This may include internment in a grave in a cemetery or churchyard, disposal at another crematorium or dispersal privately in a particular area selected by the family. Suitable permission should be obtained from the appropriate Authority in these cases.

Note it says should not must  :)

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 June 08 16:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Caz
sorry for you and your family's loss.  Go ahead and scatter and them where she wanted to be scattered  - It would take one very hard hearted person to stop you ( and what grounds can they stop you for?) .

If it were me, I would go ahead with the person's wishes, and b*gger what anyone else has to say about the  legalities of it. I doubt very much the gaols are full of people scattering  ashes of family members  over graves.

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Re: Why can't I sprinkle ashes
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 June 08 17:26 BST (UK) »
When my husband died I paid the cemetery £150 for a tiny rose bush and metal tag with his name on. I had a major argument with them because I wanted the name "Rocky" put on it.  He was never called anything else.

I went to the cemetery expecting to scatter his ashes around the rose bush only to be told by a thoroughly obnoxious man that I couldn't "chuck 14 lbs of ashes around a rose" and had to take them to an agreed area.  They knew when I paid for the rose that that was the plan!

I gave up that day and later took them to his favourite part of the coast and put them in the sea.   However I kept a small amount back.  My friend and I went back to the cemetery,  she kept watch (in a sort of pantomine fashion) while I dug a small hole under the rose and buried the ashes.  :D

Rocky would have loved it, he had a wicked sense of humour!

You go for it Caz, put them wherever you want to. ;D  You need to feel content that you have done everything you can for somebody that you have lost.

All the best,  Elin
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Re: Why can't I sprinkle ashes
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 June 08 18:24 BST (UK) »
They say it's illegal (but it's not) yet they can do it for £150.     ??? 
jobsworths  >:(

I agree with Windsor, and everyone else.
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