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smudger28
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Hi I'm looking for a couple of marriages that my Great x3 Grandfather had.
He is called Francis DEXTER and his first wife was a Martha HILL.
Francis was born in North/South Luffenham 1826.
Martha was born I think in 1824 Ketton Cum Tixover.
Martha died in 1868 aged 42, I know maths are not correct but I have few birth dates for her.
Francis Re Married a Hannah as seen on the 1871 Uppingham Census.
I would like to find out the marriage dates and Hannahs maiden name.
Thanks
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KathyM
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There doesn't seem to be anything on freebmd -= so it will mean trawling through 1837online for his firt marriage - start just before the birth of their first child....
Then, the second marriage - did they have any children ? it would be easier to find out her maiden name first through one of their birth certificates.....there are quite a few Francis Dexter's - maybe someone else who knows that area better than me could pinpoint the correct one !
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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smudger28
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Hi Kathy
On Francis second marriage he would have been about 42 which is getting on a bit for kids.
The 1871 Census shows Francis with Hannah and his age is 46 hers 60 so she was to old I think as Martha died in 1868.
The 1871 Census also shows George 14, William 16 and Edward 12.
In the 1861 Census George 2, William 6, Edward 4 and Ann 8.
Its to much of a coincidence.
I just could do with the dates and places of marriage to tie it all in.
Thanks
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KathyM
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I have managed to find one of them for you -
Francis DEXTER & Martha HILL June quarter 1851 at Stamford 24 1145
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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smudger28
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Kathy
You are a STAR, thanks very much!! My jigsaw is coming together nicely.
I had that one down as 1851 - 1853. Great stuff!!
Just need to find the last marriage. How did you unearth that one?
Thanks
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KathyM
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You really need to know the wife's maiden name !
If the entries have been transcribed onto freebmd - which I don't think those have yet - you can work out which bride fits - by their first name - usually.
On this one - I knew his first child Ann, was born c. 1853 - so searched on 1837 online for a marriage for Francis Dexter - between 1850 -53
Luckily, I found a Francis quite quickly - I started at Mar 1851 - and noted the reference. Then by revising the search to 'Martha Hill' for the same date - found her entry and the same reference No. Bingo !
Without a maiden name it is impossible to cross reference - they may nevert have married - or there may be more than one Francis Dexter......in which case you I would say - send the details to the GRO and ask them to send you the one with a wife called Hannah
Also - it might help to find the death of Martha - to narrow down your dates
*There is a death listed on freebmd for a Frances Dexter - in Stamford - March q. 1855 5a 212 - no age is given - perhaps this is related to your family ?
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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smudger28
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Hi Kathy
Thanks again for the info.
I can't seem to get a maiden name at the moment but Martha died in 1868 aged 42.
Then all of a sudden a Hannah Dexter appears on the 1871 census with Francis and his 3 boys. No Ann though she must have gone off to work as she would have been 18, or she married.
So there is a 3 year window to this last marriage.
Thanks again for your time Kathy
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KathyM
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I have had a quick look - and searched from Jan 1869 - Mar 1871
There are only two Francis Dexter marriages :
Frances DEXTER Dec 1870 Leicester 7a 501
Frances Henry DEXTER Mar 1871 Hackney 1b 470
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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smudger28
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It would probably be the Leicester one although the census has her down as an Uppingham Lass!!
Thanks again for your time Kathy.
I think it will be a trip to Stamford Library for my Aunt Silv.
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Just another Idea out of the blue.
Hannah DEXTER was born in Uppingham abt 1811 so I did a search on the Uppingham 1851 census for a Hannah of about 40 and found this one
Samuel Porter, Male, 49, Married
Relationship to Head
Head Occupation
Agricultural Labourer Birthplace
Rutland Belton
Street
Beast Market
Book Number: 1 Schedule Number: 164
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Hannah Porter, Female, 40, Married
Relationship to Head
Wife Occupation
Birthplace
Rutland Uppingham
Street
Beast Market
Book Number: 1 Schedule Number: 164
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George Porter, Male, 14
Relationship to Head
Son Occupation
Birthplace
Rutland Uppingham
Street
Beast Market
Book Number: 1 Schedule Number: 164
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Joseph Porter, Male, 11
Relationship to Head
Son Occupation
Scholar Birthplace
Rutland Uppingham
Street
Beast Market
Book Number: 1 Schedule Number: 164
Now I have a Samuel death in 1858 which would pave the way for my Francis to marry her.
I could do with seeing the 1861 Uppingham census to see if Hannah PORTER appears with her children with her maiden name and her children keeping the PORTER name?
She meets Francis DEXTER between 1868 - 1871 somewhere.
Just a hunch but who knows?
Please let me know your thoughts
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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smudger28
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Hi Kathy
I'm about to order a marriage certificate and wanted to check with you some information you gave me a while ago.
Here it is below.
I have managed to find one of them for you -
Francis DEXTER & Martha HILL June quarter 1851 at Stamford 24 1145
I think the 24 is supposed to be 14.
Would you be able to tell me?
Thanks
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KathyM
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A couple of things.....
1) The ref. should be 14 !! sorry.....it must be my misreading of the roman numerals ! Anway I have double checked and you are correct.
2) The information about Hannah Porter has given us the other marriage !!!
Re: the ref. I gave you for the Francis Dexter marriage -
December q. 1870 in Leicester 7a 501
I cross referenced it with Hannah Porter.....and YES!!! it is the same ref. No.....well done smudger !!
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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smudger28
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Hi Kathy
Thankyou very much for looking, I can now order the Marriage Cert!!
Nice 1 
Thanks
Paul
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Cornwall: Hoare, Hoar, Mallet, Mallett, Davey, Cock Leicester (Croxton K)Ward Lincolnshire: Smith, Moss, Baxter Rutland: Dexter, Hill, Green, Fowler, Smith, Ward, Vernum, Lattimore, Chappell, Turner, Burrows Northamtonshire: Baxter, Smith South Africa: Moss, Dominey, Dominy, Domeney Requests: 1841 Rutland Census Look Ups Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Just out of interest, I think the PORTER's must have been an old Rutland family, one of them married into my EDGSON'S viz:
HANNAH PORTER daughter of JEFFREY PORTER was born November 28, 1690 in Langham, Rutland. She married WILLIAM EDGSON February 16, 1710/11 in Langham, Rutland, son of WILLIAM EDGSON and SARAH BLUNT. He was born December 24, 1685 in Langham, Rutland, and died 1719 in Langham, Rutland.
Children of HANNAH PORTER and WILLIAM EDGSON are:
William Edgson, b. June 10, 1716, Langham, Rutland.
Jeffrey Edgson, b. November 1, 1718, Langham, Rutland.
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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