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deadants
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Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« on: Saturday 22 January 05 02:21 UTC (UK) »

Kazza suggest I start a topic on photo Colourising and a bit of restoration as well.

Here's aquick example of what I mean by Colorising.



The photo is of Athlone Castle c1893. I only did the sky, castle and lamp post. The same techniques are used for skin tones whencolorising faces.

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 January 05 04:06 UTC (UK) »

If you wish to attempt this you will need software like Adobe Photoshop Elements aprox. £25.00
This has the ability to add layers.

Here are some tutorial links to get you started.

http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=186357

http://www.absolutecross.com/tutorials/photoshop/photos/colorizing/

http://81.138.9.90/lolaness/tutorials/colorchange.htm

http://www.mandarindesign.com/tutorials/colorizing.html

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 January 05 09:59 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for those links. Have been playing around with photoshop and now you've inspired me to try colouring some of my old pictures.

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 January 05 10:04 UTC (UK) »

If you are using Windows XP or Windows 2000 Paint.net which is available on a free download from http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/ can handle layers .

deadants is being a little modest here, and colourising takes patience and skill especially to the degree that has been shown here.
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 January 05 03:42 UTC (UK) »

Well I didn't know about Paint.net, but if it has the capability to add layers then it should work with colorizing.

For those people who are reading this and wondering what layers are, Here's the description from the photoshop  help.

Layers allow you to work on one element of an image without disturbing the others. Think of layers as sheets of acetate stacked one on top of the other. Where there is no image on a layer, you can see through to the layers below. You can change the composition of an image by changing the order and attributes of layers. In addition, special features such as adjustment layers, fill layers, and layer styles let you create sophisticated effects.

I don't want to get too technical, as this is after all a genealogy forum not a graphics  forum. but some simple manipulation of photos can realy make a  difference to a web page or a printed form. So a few hours of playing around can give spectacular results.

I added one more photo to show that complex photos are done in little steps. An hour a day for about a week and this photo of my G Grandmother and her family would look stunning and make a great enhancement to your famil tree files.

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 January 05 22:10 UTC (UK) »

There was a post today about photo Restoration. and I just posted a reply.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,29377.0.html

If you think you would like to learn how it is done, Check this out. it's well worth a look.

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http://digitalretouch.org/
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 January 05 22:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi deadant.
Great site you have here. I need to ask though how you get your photos on the replie postings. I have tried and failed a number of times.  I kept the pictures down to 300kb combined and listed them under the Additional Options but I keep getting file name errors etc..
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 January 05 22:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ted, there are two ways of putting files on this forum. The first way is the way you are attempting which  is probably the easiest, then there is the bbcode but we will save that as a last option.
First make sure the file size is a small as you can make it without degrading the picture. Second, make sure it has a unique file name. Third make sure you have the right. file type, eg. txt, jpg, jpeg, gif, pdf, mpg, png, ged

If this doesn't work. I  will write a small tutorial on some of the ways to prepare a file for posting.

What graphics programme are you using.?

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 January 05 22:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Deadants,
I am using Adobe Photoshop 6. and I guess my question is where is the file name. Are you referring to what I put into the Additional Options fields?
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 January 05 22:52 UTC (UK) »

Are you referring to what I put into the Additional Options fields?
Ted

Yes that's the question. But it sounds like you know where the file you are trying to attatch is  on your hard drive. So there could be another problem. If you want, email me the file and I will do a test post. I  will examine the file for anything screwy that may be going on.

I wil pm you my email address in a second.

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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 January 05 00:16 UTC (UK) »

Images that are larger than 100 kB tend to take a while to load on People's browsers if they are using a dial-up connection.  So this is one way of getting those photographs and documents onto the forum and keep the file size to a minimum.

The first thing you need to do is to scan the photograph or the document at a decent resolution.  300dpi is desirable so you can zoom in and look at the detail. The problem at this resolution when you save it, it will have a file size of 600kB or more.  Obviously this is far to big for posting onto the forum.  So, we need to reduce the file size without losing to much detail.

While viewing your document in a graphic program, you need to decide which part of the document you want to post.  If it is a photostat copy from a birth registry for instance, you may only need one person on the list.  So the first thing to do is use the cropping tool.  Then drag a rectangle over the details you want to keep and crop. Bingo, this has already dropped the file size dramatically without losing detail on the area of interest.  If the file size is still above 100 kB, what you need to do is reduce the image size to 72dpi.  72dpi is the maximum resolution that most monitors can handle. As there are whole lot of different software packages out there. i cant't tell you where the image reduction menus are, so here's one way to do it that works for everyone.

With the file open, zoom in or out to the size you think looks good enough for the forum members to look at. If you are using a pc, hit the "Print Screen" key, this will take a snapshot of the screen and place it on the clipboard. If you are using a Macintosh hold down the "apple, shift, 3" this will take a snapshot of the screen and put a file on the desktop.

With your graphics programme open. With the PC you go to file/new, this will ask if you want a new blank document. Say OK. then go to edit and paste, the contets of the clipboard will appear on screen at 72dpi. With the Macintosh you go to file open, and look for a file called "picture1" and open it. Now wether PC or Macintosh you do another crop to get rid of the excess image.

Now when you save the image its file size should be below 100kb.

This is probably as clear as mud. Here's a link to a tutoial which is a bit more professional.

deadants

http://www.inform.umd.edu/UMS+State/UMD-Projects/MCTP/Technology/image/size.html
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 January 05 01:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Deadants,
I know what you are talking about and I am converscent with the graphic. What I am unable to do is add the photos to a reply on your posting as you have added pics..
It seems not to like a "file name" stating it has already been used???
I hadnt used it before???
So given I reduce the images which makes sense and I have done I am unsure how to add these pic.
I am getting to the point I dont want to bother.
sorry to say that, as I wanted to help others also with their graphics as I have been doing it for a while.
Thanks so much for your help.
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 January 05 01:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi from Tallted again,
Do you want to meet on the chat line we could meet and move to a seperate room to go over any suggestions you may have.  I will go there now and if you can I will meet you. If not its ok some folks don't care for the chat line as it is getting a bit frivolous.
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 January 05 01:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I just thought I would share some photo restoration I am working on.  I have used Adobe Photoshop 6 and found it great for restoring and colourising old photos.  The one attached was torn very badly, but I was able to piece it together with Adobe and restore it. I also eliminated 2 children not related to the family and left my dad, his brother and sister together. I will now be colouring it using the layer programs.
If any one is purchasing or has Adobe photoshop 6, I would suggest you purchase with it the book "Adobe Photoshop 6 for Windows Bible." by Deke McClelland. The book is so much better than the manual. Well worth the extral outlay if you are serious about doing this.
If anyone needs any help I to will be happy to accomodate. Just e mail me.
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Re: Photo Restoration and Colourising.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 January 05 01:53 UTC (UK) »

I'm impresset Ted. Just  one little thing you could have done before  posting two files is to put the two together as one photo. Side by side.

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