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pam r
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This is my first post to this message board. Can anyone help me? I have a Dorothy Rose Mary Robinson born c1917. But where?? No-one with those names registered, but loads with any one of the names! Her mother was a Mary Robinson, present when Dorothy died in Chelsea 1944 of TB leaving two young sons, the youngest reaching one year old a week after Dorothy's death. We want to know about her, as he never even knew his mothers name. Dorothy's father was, according to her marriage cert., William George Robinson, and I see that a man with this name married in Sept. quarter 1916 in Westhampnett could anyone check for me and see if he married a Mary? Not sure where it will get us, but it's the only lead I have at present.
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kerryb
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Hi Pam
Welcome to Rootschat!
I've had a look for you and it was a Mary that William George Robinson married. It was Mary Dean. Do you have the details of the certificate, it might be worth ordering it?
Volume - 2b
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Kerry
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Hi
Yes i have found the same , Mary dean 1916 Sept, qrt, Robinson 2b 751 Westampnett .
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kerryb
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Found registration of Dorothy's birth but not in Sussex!
Dorothy R Robinson
mother's maiden name - Dean
1918 quarter - March
District - Chorlton
volume 8c
Page 1143
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pam r
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Yes I found that one and applied for certificate copy, but father is not William George Robinson!
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kerryb
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Hmmm
I looked between 1915 and 1920 and that was the only one I saw with Dean as a maiden name, so looked obvious. Perhaps she wasn't born 1917? Maybe in the 20s?
Were there any siblings?
Kerry
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Hi Pam
Welcome to Rootschat 
What is father's name on that birth certificate? Does his occupation match the one on the marriage cert? Is the mother's name Mary as expected? If all else matches up just thinking he may have been William George known as something different??
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Some good questions there Janan. I've been back and revisited 1915 to 1920 and there doesn't seem any other options. I don't know what other birth certs you have already ordered for Dorothy, Pam. Perhaps if there are a few it would be helpful if you jotted them down for us.
I also wondering if maybe Dorothy was not her real name, maybe she was just known as that?? 
Kerry
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pam r
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No Father's occupation on the marriage certificate as the space is taken by the word 'deceased'. Dorothy's age was 21 in December 1938 and 26 in July 1944, and it was her mother, present when Dorothy died, who notified the registrar of her death I am inclined to think the age is right. By my reckoning this would put her birthday each year between July and December, because she would have been 26 by December 1943, but had not reached 27 by the time she died. She married as Dorothy Rose Mary, and died as Dorothy Rose. No record of any siblings at present - I have not found any other births with Robinson as the surname and Dean as mother's name around the same time. I haven't applied for any other birth certificates, and do not have the Chorlton one, just the advice from GRO that names did not match my search. I will have to send for that certificate I think, and see exactly what it says. I have had another look at Dorothy's marriage certificate, and one of the witnesses who signed was a W G Robinson, who I had presumed was a brother or cousin. I wonder now if Dorothy's birth father was not WG, but that he was actually her step-father, and the 'deceased' in the father's occupation column referred to her birth father, while the name in the father's column referred to her step-father!!?? We have no way of knowing what names Dorothy was known by. Her young son - not one year old when she died, didn't even know any name for her, or whether his parents had been married at all, or when and where she died, and no living relatives to ask.
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pam r
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By-the-way - I haven't said 'Thank You' to you all for your help. It's great to have someone to share the line of thought with, and give me extra ideas and information.
Thanks x
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pam r
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Another thought - on the marriage cert in 1938 Dorothy Robinson's address is 18 Cadogan Street, Draycott Avenue, Chelsea, London SW3. I wonder if the Electoral Rolls for that year or one either side might show Dorothy at home with her family, and thus provide some names?? Anyone know where these lists are for that address?
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kerryb
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Hi Pam
Another nice tricky one then to keep you guessing,  that's what makes family history so interesting, so I'm told.
Just a thought have you searched for the birth of a Dorothy Rose Mary Dean?? Maybe W G Robinson was not her real father as you mention.
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Thought I might join in this one as I have been watching it. What is the maiden name given for her on her son's birth certificate? Another thought is to miss Dorothy all together and try to trace her mother. When did she die? Was she a widow? A second husband might show up. Or it may be that Dorothy was illegitimate and they were trying to hide that on her marriage certificate?
I think there is an archives place in Kensington/Chelsea that might have the electoral rolls - or at least know where they are.
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pam r
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Hi - yes, mother's birth surname from the son's birth cert is Robinson. Thought of trying to trace the mother, but with a name like Mary Robinson it's worse than finding Dorothy!! I shall send for the Chorlton Dorothy Robinson birth cert. and see what that says, and find where the Electoral details are kept and check each of the addresses I have for Dorothy and her husband. I will let you all know what comes of the problem. Thank you all so much for all your help.
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kerryb
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Do let us know of the result Pam, this one has been intriguing and it would be interesting to know the outcome.
Kerry
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