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Topic: Searching for Griffiths and Lacey in Qld (Read 1344 times)
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karenlee
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Cazay ......the stuff you found is very close to home for me.... I'm a Mackay girl displaced in Brisbane at the moment. It is Goldsmith Street by the way... just around the corner from the house I grew up in. Chances are I rode my bike past this house every day on the way to school. The names Mirani, Pinnacle and Racecourse make me more than a little nostalgic.. 
BuddysMummy... as noted above I am in Brisbane. So please let me know when you will be here and I will sort out my timetable so that I can take you to any of the cemeteries, addresses etc that you may want to visit while you are here if you would like.
There are quite a few QLD websites that may be of use in your research as well. Just ask and one of us here will be able to point you in the right direction.
Cheers
Karenlee
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BuddysMummy
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Grandfather George H Griffiths in 1989, aged 98yrs
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Bless, I have just seen that George died of dementia at the Benevolent asylum, Dunwich. So that might explain why my Grandfather put his mother down as NOK. I had forgotten that I have that info. (I find it so hard to keep swapping pages online to track it all down, but have yet to find a way of recording it on paper which I would find easier to navigate) Any hints elsewhere on the boards???
Also have his occupation as "Candle packer".
Yes, my Grandfather died just 6 weeks after his 99th birthday. The surviving son (also George Harold) was just starting to plan the centenary celebrations. He then died very suddenly a few weeks after his father. My uncle George was a dental surgeon in Orange, NSW. After his death his surgical equipment was shipped out to a third world country, I gather.
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Rands - Hackney. Bedfordshire.
Griffiths - Birkenhead. Queensland, Australia
Ollive/Olive - Cheshire. Birkenhead
Holt - ?Cheshire/Liverpool
Lacey - Mile End, London. Queensland, Australia
Sewell - Middx. Queensland, Australia
Sapsord/ Sapsford - Middx
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Ruskie
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Hi BM,
In your original question, you said you were looking for the immigration records of the Laceys and George H Griffiths. I have a couple of questions:
What are the names and birth dates of William and Mary Jane Lacey's two children who were born in England?
Do you know the names of George H Griffiths parents and siblings and approximate dates of birth?
Re "commissioning agent" - I'd like to have a guess at the meaning.  I may be completely wrong, but I thought it may have something to do with shipping & exporting and importing. Think it can be applied to people as well as goods.
PS. If you're driving in Queensland, check distances on a road altas so you allow yourself plenty of time to get where you want to go  .
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BuddysMummy
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Grandfather George H Griffiths in 1989, aged 98yrs
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Hi BM, In your original question, you said you were looking for the immigration records of the Laceys and George H Griffiths. I have a couple of questions: What are the names and birth dates of William and Mary Jane Lacey's two children who were born in England? Do you know the names of George H Griffiths parents and siblings and approximate dates of birth? Re "commissioning agent" - I'd like to have a guess at the meaning. I may be completely wrong, but I thought it may have something to do with shipping & exporting and importing. Think it can be applied to people as well as goods. PS. If you're driving in Queensland, check distances on a road altas so you allow yourself plenty of time to get where you want to go .
Thanks for your help.
The Lacey children born in UK:
William Lacey. b.30/05/1881 London
Priscilla Lacey b. 29/11/1882
And George Harold Griffiths parents:
George Harold Griffiths b. 22/08/1858
Jessie Griffiths (nee Olive) b. ??Sept 1858
their children:
Frederick Griffiths b. c. 1882
Ethel Griffiths b. 6/8/1884
Edith Griffiths b. 31/8/1886
Alfred Griffiths b. 21/8/1888
Clement Griffiths 1890
George Griffiths b. 18/6/1892
Dorothy Griffiths b. 30/12/1894
EDITED TO ADD:
Careless of me....Frederick Griffiths died as an infant in 1882 so would not appear on any passenger lists. Sorry about that!
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Rands - Hackney. Bedfordshire.
Griffiths - Birkenhead. Queensland, Australia
Ollive/Olive - Cheshire. Birkenhead
Holt - ?Cheshire/Liverpool
Lacey - Mile End, London. Queensland, Australia
Sewell - Middx. Queensland, Australia
Sapsord/ Sapsford - Middx
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Ruskie
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This is great BM!
I don't think there are too many Lacey's around, but to have an unusual name like Priscilla should help to find the family IF they are on any records.
Similar with the Griffiths - a fairly common surname with some unusual forenames.
Shipping records show the passenger's ages, so another way to help identify the right people.
I'll try to get to the archives tomorrow to see if I can find them ......
Just writing these names down, and just want to double check something if I may:
In your original question you said that George H Griffiths and his siblings were born in Birkenhead about 1900-1910. In the list above you have all the Griffiths children born in the 1880's .... I take it the 1880's are the correct dates? Also the George Griffiths b 18-6-1892 is your grandfather George H Griffiths (who married in 1917).
.... gee, that family would have a lot of birthday presents to buy each August .....
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tropicalj
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My uncle George was a dental surgeon in Orange, NSW. After his death his surgical equipment was shipped out to a third world country, I gather
just to clarify which uncle is this one related to?
By the Electoral rolls George Griffiths was an Insurance agent would that be the same as a Commision Agent. A lot of insurance agent were only paid a commission of the insurance policy they sold.
No problems about photographing the grave in Rocky let me know if you change your mind.
By the information to hand George Fitzroy Lacey is in that grave but then again it may be a memorial only to him if he was taken by a shark?
there are two Lacey listed in the Rockhampton phone book
regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, BRYAN from Staffordshire, HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Ruskie
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Thanks for the confirmation BM - I've got a bee in my bonnet about these families, so I'm going to try to find out a bit more about them for you .
I'll keep you posted.
PS. BM it's June here in Australia - is it November in England
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tropicalj
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I noticed by the Ryerson Index the folowing death
GRIFFITHS George Harold Death notice 08NOV1991 Death 66 late of Orange Sydney Morning Herald 11NOV1991
is that your Grandfather? have the got the age wrong should be 99?
regards JEnn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, BRYAN from Staffordshire, HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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Ruskie
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oops, sorry about that months thing BM - I thought you were referring to your comment in the line above that
- Yes, I was also wondering about the English cooler months being responsible for all those August births ....
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fionakennedyarnold
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Hi,
A big thank you to William Jones for pointing me in this direction....
The Ethel Griffiths who is the sister of your George Griffiths is my husband's GGGrandmother - She is the one who married Harry Hilditch.
I'm only just starting to verify their information when I posted to the GRIFFITHS mailinglist after finding a pedigree submission on the IGI which listed both our ancestors but without links to parents.
I now have found those parents and grandparents but am trying to verify all this information also.
We live in Queensland and only just visited Rockhampton and the Bowen (where some family ended up) a couple of weeks ago for the first time. My husband's grandfather and all of his children and their families are still living there. He would be Ethel's grandson and great grandchildren...surname WEBB.
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