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Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« on: Monday 23 June 08 17:11 BST (UK) »

My gt-grandfather, Roland Higgins, dob 11 Feb. 1871, we believe was born in Shropshire.  He had a younger sister , Hannah, who remained in England and was visited by Canadian relatives on leave during WWII.  Roland's brothers, George and  an unknown, also emigrated to Canada.  A nephew who lived in England, Jack Williams, visited Roland in Canada in the late 1920's or early 1930's. If this matches up with your family history, please contact me.
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 June 08 17:25 BST (UK) »

Rootschat is more about researching your family history rather than looking for distant living rellies - though sometimes that is an added bonus that occurs!
Not sure if you are only wanting to try and link up with any other descendents, or if you are interested in the family.

If the latter, well they are easily findeable on the 1881 census - thid is free to view on either ancestry or familysearch.

They can be found at
RG11 2683 101 6

and the entry is as follows:

Edgemond,
William 38 Labourer bn Salop Childs?
MArtha wife 34 bn Salop ?
Roland 10 bn Salop Adderley
William 8     "
George 6    "
Henry  5 bn Staffordshire Adbatten?
Edward 3  bn Staffordshire Syrley
Mary 9 mths bn Salop Edgmond

CAnt see Hannah,perhaps she is younger than Mary.

So, already you can broaden out the info that you have! As well as George, Roland had at least 3 other brothers.
And, yes he was born in Shropshire (Salop)
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 June 08 17:30 BST (UK) »

1891

Hints, Staffordshire

William 48 Ag LAb bn Shropshire Childs Encall??
Martha 44 bn Shropshire ?
Henry 15 Farm servant bn Saffordshire Adbarton
Mary 10 bn Shropshire Edgemond
Hannah 9      "

so there is Hannah
The family seem to move between Shropshire and Staffordshire
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 June 08 17:35 BST (UK) »

1901 -back in Shropshire

RG13 2532 28 5

Brockholes Bank, Leighton, Shropshire
William 58 Fram Lab bn Salop Childs escell
Martha 54 bn Salop Prees??
Henry 25 Farm LAb bn Staffs Adbaston
Mary 20 bn Salop Edgemond
Hannah 19 bn   "
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 June 08 17:50 BST (UK) »

Thanks, lizdb.   Yes, I had that info...but what I was checking for was  "Is this MY Roland or just a Roland???" as I have seen a few of them in my researching.  I'm searching for anecdotal verification that will further corroborate the Roland/Hannah connection.  The George connection just appeared of Friday,when at a funeral , a distant cousin mentioned him out of the blue.  I'm just seeking verification from as many angles as I can since  it is so easy to get on the wrong track.
Thanks again.
Regards, Patricia
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 June 08 18:03 BST (UK) »

What info about 'your' Roland are you 100% sure about?

You have a date of birth - is that "sure" - so have you got his birth cert? That would give both parents and therefore confirm this is the right family, and would be the best next move.

You have siblings as Hannah, George, and at least one other brother - have you found the "other" Rolands on censuses to see if they too have this combination of names amongst their siblings?

For there to be a nephew called Jack Williams, the Mary or Hannah (if this is the correct family) would have married a Mr Williams. I did have a quick look, but didnt find any thing in Shropshire quickly.  If that can be found, then a marriage cert would give her father and again confirm or otherwise that this is the right family.


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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 June 08 18:08 BST (UK) »

FreeBMD only has one candidate for Roland's birth - if you are sure of his d-o-b:

Jaan/Feb/Mar 1871
Rowland Higgins
Wern Shropshire ref 6a 793
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 June 08 18:30 BST (UK) »

Hi again,  Roland's dob was found in a family history article from the 1970's, no actual bc.  But I shall order that bc you found of Rowland and see if it proves correct.  I appreciate your help.
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 June 08 19:05 BST (UK) »

Did your Roland end up in Manitoba?

There is a Roland Higgens who was born Feb. 1870 in Manitoba, married to Maggie.  He states he came to Canada in 1888.

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=64534

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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 June 08 19:25 BST (UK) »

Rolland Higgins & Maggie Birnie married July 20, 1893 in Rosedale Manitoba.

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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 June 08 20:04 BST (UK) »

Hello Karen...yes, Roland and Margaret's daughter Ethel Gertrude Higgins is my grandma.  They lived in the town of Birnie, Manitoba.  Where do you fit in on the family tree???
Patricia in [Winnipeg] Canada
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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 June 08 20:07 BST (UK) »

I don't  Grin

Just seeing if I could help that's all  Smiley

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Re: Roland Higgins 1871 [emigrated to Canada] sister Hannah
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 June 08 20:29 BST (UK) »

Thanks , Karen, I appreciated the help.
Patricia
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