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pippylong
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Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« on: Tuesday 24 June 08 11:58 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

I'd like a little help if possible!

Can anyone help me to find out anything about the following BELLs please?  My Grandmother is/was Janet Bell (moved to Skewen, South Wales, 1920's. brothers James (Jim) and Thomas (Tom) moved to Llandarcy, Skewen on the opening of the then new Oil Refinery - 1921). Parents were William Bell 1865 - 1920 and Mary Moore 1870 - 1908 who were married in Livingston.  William was a foreman in the Shale Oil works and they lived in Faraday Place (foremans cottages), Addiewell.

Perhaps this might also help someone with Bells in their family

William George Bell 1891–1917
Richard Moore Bell 1892–1913
Mary Dawson Bell 1893–1980
Thomas Bell 1895–1976
David Bell 1897–1973
James William Bell 1898–1971
Stewart Ogilvey Bell 1898–1899
Charles Moore Bell 1898–1920
Martha McBryde Bell 1900–1924
Catherine Logue Bell 1901–1982
Agnes Fibiger Bell 1904–1913
Euphemia Moore Bell 1906–
Janet Bell 1907–1994

particularly curious about the Fibiger name, apparently links with a Danish sea captain have been rumoured!

many thanks
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 August 08 13:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi

l have Bells and Dawsons in my family  l have a Mary Bell formly Dawson and was married to Thomas Bell, they had a son Matthew Dawson Bell born 1902 they lived in Pelton Co Durham,

could this be part of your tree

Tay
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pippylong
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 August 08 08:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tay,

As far as I have got with my Scottish Bells, this isn't on my tree.  I have William Bell m Mary Moore

Mary's parents were:
Richard Moore m Mary Dawson

this is where Mary Dawson Bell b.1893 has her name.

This is intriguing and I do wonder if in some way we do have a connection but as yet........

thank you for getting in touch, you never know!!!

Claire
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pippylong
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 December 08 14:10 UTC (UK) »

Hello Smiley

I'm reading through my list of Bells again and realise I have made a slight mistake.  It was James and David Bell that came to Llandarcy, South Wales, not Thomas,  if anyone has any of these names in their tree I would love to get in touch,

thanks,

Pip Smiley
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 23:06 UTC (UK) »

I have a posting elsewhere here on Marshalls of Addiewell. You will see they lived in Faraday as well. I wonder if it was at the same time? Isnt it amazing these years on here we are discussing relatives who were neighbours?  We should pool any research we get.
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pippylong
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 23:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Robert ,

you are so right..........to pool resources would be a wonderful thing for anyone coming after us!  I see you have another posting also.  It is possible they were there at the same time!  What dates do you have for your ancestors!  Do you have access to Scottish census records?  I see also mosstrooper has photos for Faraday Place - he has kindly sent them to me..........it is amazing to see and to think that our ancestors were there....I was totally blown away, which I think when you see, you will also think the same!  If I can help in any way please ask!

Pip  Cheesy
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 23:37 UTC (UK) »

Ive been there it is spooky because the front of the houses are very olde world in my opinion.  To think your relatives lived there. I almost knocked on the door to ask to see inside lol
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 18:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Folks.
I too have uncovered ancestors who worked in the Oil Industry in West Lothian.  They were McGoohans and McCanns.  However, they lived in the poorer part of uphall at Simpsons Rows.  It is amazing that all these peole would have known each other and been neighbours.
Regards,
Lynda
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

Lynda

Even more amazing it looks like my relatives lived in number 3 immediately before the bells that are pippylongs relatives - now is that not weird.  Not sure your dates but my trelatives appear there in the 1891 census and the Bells in 1901.   I cant find my relatives anywhere in 1901 census ;(

R
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pippylong
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 18:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Robert and Lyndyloo,

They must have all walked the same streets, probably known many of the same people, worked together -   I can only imagine, but it must be a wierd feeling walking the same streets roads etc. as our ancestors - to stand and see the houses for yourself............I wonder what would happen if Robert did knock on a door!  you do wonder what they would be like now!  My Dad says he remembers - great big holes in the walls that they called beds - I think maybe he was told stories of this unless they lived there for many years after  the 1901 census - but it is possible I suppose.  If anyone has any more pictures/photos they would be wonderful to see,  and a big Kiss to mosstrooper for his part in this.

Here we are over 100 years later with families who worked in the same place in the same industry!! Wow!

Good to hear from you,

Pip Cheesy
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 January 09 00:46 UTC (UK) »

Dear Pippylong.
                          Here are a couple of photos to show housing conditions with the Inset beds your father describes.
James.


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pippylong
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 January 09 07:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi James,

Good to hear from you again Smiley.  Thank you for the photos.

Conditions were very harsh, it is a wonder any child survived in places like this, makes us all the more grateful for what we have today and take for granted - running water, lavatories, heating, light and food a plenty on our tables!  I wonder if they were happy though...... Cry

thank you again kind sir,

Pip Wink

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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 January 09 20:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi There,
These pictures are absolutley fantstic insight to our social history.  I so wish that I had something like this to show.........They also look happy enough and the baby looks fine.
Thank you for sharing these.

Regards,
Lynda
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Robertson, McKay, Blyth, McHale, Begg, McCann, McCabe, Horan,  Edinburgh.
McGoohan, Conway, Kelly, Meechan, Edinburgh, Ireland
Goodfellow, Hodgson, Birtley,Chester le Street Durham.
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Re: Scottish BELLs in Addiewell
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 January 09 20:37 UTC (UK) »

lynda,
           these photos came from a wonderful site for Family Historians, here is the link :-

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/index.php

If you haven't been there before, enjoy.

James. 
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