Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Friday 27 November 09 07:18 UTC (UK)
Welcome Home Help Surnames Library Shop Search Login Register

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  England (Counties as in 1851-1901)
| |-+  England - General
| | |-+  Derbyshire (Moderator: Chris in 1066Land)
| | | |-+  Silk Mill Derby
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: Silk Mill Derby  (Read 1810 times)
captainjackdi
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 20


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Silk Mill Derby
« on: Tuesday 24 June 08 20:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi
does anyone know if there are any records for silk mill derby - I understand there was a fire at some point - alot of my relatives are listed occupations as silk mill hand, silk weaver, silk doubler etc around 1850 -1860's
Logged
spendlove
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Posts: 508


I've not edited my PROFILE yet


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 June 08 20:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Think you should be aware that there was more than 1 silk factory in Derby in
the 1800's.

Contact details for the Museum at Derby Silk Mill are:-
Derby's Museum of Industry and History 
Silk Mill Lane, off Full Street, Derby, DE1 3AF
telephone: 01332 255308
fax: 01332 255108

You could also try a search on A2A, however I have never found any employee records
relating to this mill.
Spendlove

Logged

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Spendlove, Strutt in London & Middlesex.
derby girl
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 56


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 20:16 UTC (UK) »

There is a book - "The Old Derby Silk Mill and its Rivals" by Harry Butterton  - very interesting it is too - he seems to have much f his research in the Local Studies Library in Irongate, and also the Museum - which I also take to be the Inudstrial Museum in the Silk Mill rather than Derby Museum in the Wardwick.  He does name a number of people. such as wm hutton who worked there from the age of 7 and had high pattens specially made for him to reach the machinery.
If you give me a name I'll look to see if they are men tioned in the book.
Regards
Derby Girl
Logged

Winson, Derbys; Stanley, Sts; Franklin, Beds; Barker Sts etc. ; Farnham, Dorset; Harrison, Dbys, Leics.
derby girl
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 56


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 21:57 UTC (UK) »

Oops!  I was mising it up with another book - it's an interesting read, but doesn't contain many extra names to the Census.  My apologies.
Sorry
Derby Girl
Logged

Winson, Derbys; Stanley, Sts; Franklin, Beds; Barker Sts etc. ; Farnham, Dorset; Harrison, Dbys, Leics.
willow154
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3157


Mum - Such love


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 22:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Wonder if it's this one?
A fire took place on 2 June 1875. The first Cotton Mill was built in Sutton by the Unwin Family c1770. It changed hands in 1851, and became a Silk Mill, before being heavily damaged by fire in 1875. After some years of standing empty, the factory re-opened and continued in use until the early 1970's, when it was again ravaged by fire.
The dates are a bit out, but thought it might be a possibility.
If you think it is I'll send you a link so you can see a photograph.
Kind regards,
Paulene
Logged
spendlove
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Posts: 508


I've not edited my PROFILE yet


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 July 08 09:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Unwin's Cotton Mill was in Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, think we are
looking for Silk Mill actually in Derby.

The present day Museum in Derby "Silk Mill" houses a collection of Industrial items including details of the History of the building as a Silk Mill.  As far as I am aware no records have survived for any employees of this building.

Must stress that in the 1800's there were other "Silk Mills" in Derby, again as far as
I am aware no employee records survive.

Contact detail for the present day Derby Silk Mill are as previous post.

Hope this helps.
Spendlove.
Logged

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Spendlove, Strutt in London & Middlesex.
willow154
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3157


Mum - Such love


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 July 08 12:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi again,
You're quite right, Spendlove - just checked again.  Put a search in for silk mills specifying Derby and it came up Huh
Seemed to fit the bill, so assumed it was Derby. Teach me to check! Embarrassed Grin
Will keep on looking - hopefully something will turn up.
Kind regards,
 Paulene Smiley
Logged
willow154
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3157


Mum - Such love


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 July 08 13:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi captainjackdi,
I've found details of one which burnt down in 1826 and again in 1910, and this one was definitely in Derby. Think these dates fit in  with what you're hoping to find? Details to follow.
Kind regards,
Paulene Smiley
P.S. Sorry for misleading you the first time. Embarrassed
 
 
Logged
willow154
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3157


Mum - Such love


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 July 08 14:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi derbygirl,
Sounds like it's the same mill - Lombe's. It certainly does have a fascinating history, doesn't it. Might pop and have a read of the book next time I visit Derby. Thank you for mentioning it.
Captainjackdi,
There are various photographs of the mill and a potted history (mentions both fires) on www.picturethepast.org
Like spendlove said, employee records are unlikely, though they do have records regarding the mill's history, etc.
Did wonder if  apprenticeship records might list names of people who served their apprenticeships there, but apparently there are none for the actual city - and they would probably relate more to the earlier period.
("Hutton’s authority is the best, for he served an apprenticeship of seven years in the mill").
Anyway, captainjackdi - good luck with the hunt.
Some lovely photos on the above site + interesting facts.
Kind regards,
Paulene Smiley
Logged
captainjackdi
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 20


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 July 08 17:14 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to you all for your information
Logged
derby girl
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 56


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 July 08 13:42 UTC (UK) »

Dear Captain Jackdi
Pigots Directory of 1835 (Derbyshire) gives - Silk Manufacturers - Thomas Bridgett & Co, 68 Bridge St, Derby, Mark Brown (laces, cords etc), 9 George Street, Derby, Frost and  Stevenson, Queen Street Mill, in the City Road, derby, John Mellor (laces, sewing silks, cords, etc.) 5 Green Street, Derby, Jno & Thos Robinson, Sacheverell St, Derby, Wm Taylor (silk mills), Silk Mill Lane, Derby ( I think this was originally Lombe's mill), Wm Unsworth (laces, sewing silks, cords, etc.), Siddal's Lane, Derby, Robert Ward, 5 Full Stgreet, Derby, Wilson, Moore & Co, 2 Devonshire Street, Derby.    Silk Throwsters - Moore, Ambrose & Co, Depot mills, Derby, John Rawlings, 37 Nuns Street, Derby, Wm Taylor, Silk Mill Lane (i.e. Lombe's ?), Wright & Baker, 27 Agard Street, Derby.   There are also other firms involved in making silk hosiery and gloves, which would also probably employ outworkers.    Any help at all?
Regards
Derby Girl.
Logged

Winson, Derbys; Stanley, Sts; Franklin, Beds; Barker Sts etc. ; Farnham, Dorset; Harrison, Dbys, Leics.
amanda beavis
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 6


I've not edited my PROFILE yet


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 12:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I have a William Parkin Morley, who along with his twin brother John Patterson, had, in 1851 a Silk Throwster Corporation, employing 34 men, 150 women and 80 children. The brothers lived next door to each other, one at Depot Cottage, and one at Depot Mill, Normanton Road. If anyone has any information on this, I would really appreciate it - or some suggestions on how I can find out more about it. I don't know what it was called, unfortunately.
Many thanks
Amanda
Logged
derby girl
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 56


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 17:42 UTC (UK) »

Dear Amanda    According to Pigot's 1835, Depot Mills were owned by Moore, Ambrose & Co.  There is also Glover's Directory of 1849 you could look up - I don't know if on the web - perhaps someone might go into the Local Studies Library on Irongate for you (I live in Yorkshire unfortunately) and see if they have anything there.  Otherwise, you might look for wills left by your relatives - they can be very informative.
Regards
Derby Girl
Logged

Winson, Derbys; Stanley, Sts; Franklin, Beds; Barker Sts etc. ; Farnham, Dorset; Harrison, Dbys, Leics.
derby girl
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 56


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 18:12 UTC (UK) »

On page 62 of Butterton's book on "The old Derby Silk Mill and its Rivals" he says the town expanded southwards after the sale of the Normanton and Castlefields estates,  and that four mills were built along Normanton Road, 3 of which were headed by members of the Morley family.  I'm sure Local Studies will be able to help you if you are able to visit. 
Regards
Derby Girl
Logged

Winson, Derbys; Stanley, Sts; Franklin, Beds; Barker Sts etc. ; Farnham, Dorset; Harrison, Dbys, Leics.
amanda beavis
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 6


I've not edited my PROFILE yet


Re: Silk Mill Derby
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

Thanks so much Derby Girl - Unfortunately I live in Australia, so can't visit  Smiley I will definitely look into in as much as I can on the web though - I will try to get in contact with the Local Studies and see if anyone there can help me.. Thanks again, much appreciated
Regards
Amanda
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT

In loving memory of Eric George Davies, 1934-2009, the father of RootsChat.com































Powered by SMF 1.0.7 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC
0.044:21