dawnuk57
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I have a John William Smith born 1858 Grimsby married to Ellen of Grimsby. Could anyone look up in the 1891 & 1901 census records please to find their children? Thanks in advance
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dawnuk57
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I think they married in around 1881 Grimsby?
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CaroleW
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The 1881 shows him as a sawyer
There is a 1901 entry aged 45 occ sawyer but he is married to Mary A b Grimsby 1866
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Hi Carole W, he was the son of my GG grandfather, John Smith b abt 1832 Barnoldby Le Beck Lincs, married to a Jane Todd in 1855 Grimsby. John William had several brothers & sisters mostly born Grimsby. I thought i found my John William married to an ELLEN? Maybe her name is wrong? I looked on the 1881 census & found a John William Smith married to Ellen with no children, then i free bmd i found a marriage of a John William Smith to Ellen Gavin in 1881 Caistor, i could be wrong here.
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His wife must be Mary A then Carole, i will try find more about her. Where there children named on the census please?
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Maybe he married Ellen first before Mary A? It looks in the 1881 census as if i have the right John William Smith b. 1858 Grimsby married to Ellen of Grimsby? Oh i hate doing my Smith tree lol
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Just looked in 1881 census again & he was a saw sharpener so i think we both have the right John W Smith, must have married twice dont you think?
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I think Mary could be his second wife in view of the age gap in the children
1901 as follows for Cressey St Gt Grimsby. All b Grimsby except James
John Smith 45 sawyer
Mary A 35
Thomas 19
Margaret 18
John 11
James 9 b Beverley Yorks
William 7
Mary 3
Annie 1
I'll check in Yorks for the 1891
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Thats great Carole, thanks so much for your help again.
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I've checked the 1891 in all counties for children Margaret and Thomas and John who were all b pre-1891 but can't find them.
There is a possible for Margaret shown as b 1882 Standford but living with relatives in Suffolk
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Thanks Carole you did great, i can work on those later but its great to find his wives & children!! You're a star & have helped me a lot in the past with my trees, thanks again.
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Hi Geoff
Re: marriage 1885. Don't think it's the right one as the 1901 has 2 children born before that date and wife Ellen did not die until the December qtr 1885.
Also - that Thomas was 21 when he married in 1885 but the 1901 Thomas would have been around 30
We really need to find Thomas, Margaret & John(jnr) on the 1891
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Hi Geoff
I was desperate so I didn't confine the 1891 search to Yorkshire - I did an all counties search for any Thomas, Margaret, John Smith's b Grimsby - came up with nothing (i even searched on marg** and tho*)
I then did the same search but just using Lincolnshire and that's how I found the possible Margaret
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