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Topic: MI's for Kirkmaiden, Stoneykirk and Kirkmadrine (Read 5045 times)
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beannie
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Hi All,
I thought I would follow Terry's lead and offer look up's for these Graveyards.
Regards
Beenie
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Milwain, McTaldroch, McCulloch, McMillan, McCracken, Muir/Moore, Hill, Little,
McGaw, Kirkmaiden/Stoneykirk
Carmont Isle of Man/Liverpool/ Manchester
Hines, Mulvey Ireland/Manchester
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tommacgregor
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Hello Beannie,
As Terry lives in the Border Country, it's quite a toddle to the Kirkmaiden area for him. However, it's an even longer one from here in Melbourne, Australia! I'm only kidding, of course.
I saw your most generous offer and wondered if I could ask you, very nicely, if you could have a look for me at Kirkmaiden, Wigtown. I get the strong impression that my Great-Grandfather's first wife, Elizabeth, would be buried there. She was Elizabeth Ferns who died in 1873 at Kirkmaiden in Wigtownshire. I believe that her Maiden Surname was McDonald. My Great-Grandfather died about 11 years later in Glasgow at the age of 48, so I would think that Elizabeth would have died when she was in her 30's.
Very many thanks and best wishes.
Tom.
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beannie
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Hi Terry,
I'm sorry there aren't any Broll/Brawl or anything near in any of the MI books I have.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Milwain, McTaldroch, McCulloch, McMillan, McCracken, Muir/Moore, Hill, Little,
McGaw, Kirkmaiden/Stoneykirk
Carmont Isle of Man/Liverpool/ Manchester
Hines, Mulvey Ireland/Manchester
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beannie
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Hi Tom,
I'm sorry there are no Ferns or McDonald's in the kirkmaiden MI book, but there are four McDonald's in the Stoneykirk book, which is the next Parish to Kirkmaiden. Do you know if Elizabeth was from this area? If so I can send the MI's to youas they may be her relatives.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Milwain, McTaldroch, McCulloch, McMillan, McCracken, Muir/Moore, Hill, Little,
McGaw, Kirkmaiden/Stoneykirk
Carmont Isle of Man/Liverpool/ Manchester
Hines, Mulvey Ireland/Manchester
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tommacgregor
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Hello Beannie,
You're "a good 'un" for getting back to me so quickly, and I really appreciate that.
Well, thanks to your kindness, I can rule out one area and concentrate on a more hopeful area. To be perfectly honest, I knew very little about
Elizabeth McDonald for a long, long time, and still don't know very much about her family. Still, I'm a wee bit like a little West Highland terrier that we used to have - I don't give things up very easily once I get my teeth into it!
Yes, I would welcome any information that you may have, because I have all the time in the world to examine it and try out a number of techniques that I'm working on. You know, Beannie, it's people like yourself who really make my day. No fuss and splutter - just a friendly helping hand, and that's how many of us on RootsChat like it.
My very best wishes.
Tom.
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beannie
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Hi Tom,
Here are the MI's in Stoneykirk cemetery
Erected by David McDONALD in memory of Hugh McDONALD his father who died 25th Decr. 1877 aged 77 years. Also Agnes FLEMING his wife who died 24th Augt. 1877 aged 76 years. Also Catherine BATHGATE, wife of the above David McDONALD who died 14 Jany. 1887 aged 50 years.
How sweet they sleep beneath the sand, Relieved from every pain. Their precious dust the cure of God, And recieved to life again.
Erected by the family in memory of James McDONALD their father who died 25th Novr. 1883 aged 94 years. Also Jane McCUBBIN thier mother who died 14th June 1861 agecd 64 years and Rachel McDONALD their sister who died 17th Novr 1875 aged 45 years.
(small granite stone - Regimental badge) 1100 Sarjeant R. McDONALD K.O. Scottish Borderers 24th October 1915.
checked CWGC K.O. stands for King's Own, and age unknown.
In memory of Helen PETTIGREW beloved wife of William MARSHALL late farmer, Claycroft Stoneykirk who died 16th May 1873 aged 76 years. Also the above William MARSHALL died at Claycroft Stoneykirk who died 4th March 1878 aged 84 years. Also their son Samuel MARSHALL late tenant Claycroft who died 15th Feby 1897 aged 57 years. Also Margaret MARSHALL beloved wife of John McGILL and daughter of the above who died at Avon cottage Stranraer 2nd Aug 1906 aged 71 years, Also their daughter Helen MARSHALL who died at Claycroft Stoneykirk 19th Jan 1909 aged 78 years Also John McGILL who died at Avon cottage 4th January 1910 aged 75 years. And Sarah MARSHALL widow of Charles McDONALD died 1st July 1915 aged 76 years. (Reverse) Also Helen McGILL died 15th May 1936 aged 73 years. And Margaret Jane McGILL died 29th January 1954 aged 84 years. Daughters of the above said Margaret MARSHALL and John McGILL
On the 1841 census at Caldons Stoneykirk
John McDonald 45 Ag lab born Ireland with his wife Janet 36 and children John 14, Janet 12, Agnes 9, Charles 7, Elizabeth 5 and Jean 2 all born Wig
I don't know if this could be your Elizabeth ?
I hope this helps and isn't too confusing
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Carmont Isle of Man/Liverpool/ Manchester
Hines, Mulvey Ireland/Manchester
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tommacgregor
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Hi Beannie,
Gee, I like the look of that latest piece of work that you've done. There are certainly some names in there that I recognise from my notes, e.g. McGill's. However, that Irish connection at the end of your posting is the jewel in the crown. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions at this stage. I think that this is one of those occasions when I turn to our good friends in Ireland who have been corresponding with me in recent weeks.
Time and time again, I have hit this kind of Irish connection, and things appear to get tantalisingly clearer, but, there just isn't sufficient proof for me to insert it into my Family Tree. There are a great many sites in the Emerald Isle that people have been kind enough to give me, and I will work my way through them to see what I can come up with.
Again, thanks a million for a job really well done.
My very best wishes.
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi Beannie,
Haven't forgotten about you - working merrily away on that terrific information plus some other work from my Home County - dear old Fife. It's simply grand when a group of people can work together in harmony and come up with such great detail. I just love that part of my hobby, but, unfortunately I tend to forget certain details unless I record them in my computer files. It can be most frustrating, but I have no choice in the matter - I simply have to continue taking medication.
Again, very many thanks for that wonderful slab of information, it's greatly appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi!
I've just managed to surface after plumbing the depths! No, just kidding, because, quite seriously, I don't think that I've done too badly at all over the past couple of days 
Let's take a much closer look at Hugh McDonald and his wife, Agnes Fleming. Hugh would have been born around 1800 and Agnes about 1801. We know that Hugh died in Christmas Day 1877 and Agnes had died about four months earlier on 24th August, 1877.
I was lucky enough to find an extracted Marriage Certificate which stated:
Source Info: Batch No: M118984 Date: 1818-1839.
Source Call No: 1068041.
Hugh McDonald married Agnes Fleming on 10th April, 1828 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
I also managed to find details of some of their children on the IGI:
William McDonald b/chr. 6th May, 1829 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald b/chr 29th September, 1833 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
David McDonald b/chr. 3rd May, 1836 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire. He went on to marry Catherine Bathgate, who died 14th January, 1887 aged 50.
Agnes McDonald b/chr. 13th June, 1841 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
I will continue with my results on the next posting.
Best wishes to you all.
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi!
I invite you now to take a look at the family of James McDonald and his wife Jane McCubbin. I couldn't see an extracted marriage certificate on the IGI - just a couple of submitted ones after 1991 by members of the LDS. Not to worry too much about that because, I did manage to find some quite relevant information.
James died on 25th November, 1883, aged 94 and his wife, Jane McCubbin had died on 14th June, 1861, aged 64.
Their children:
William McDonald chr. 25th January, 1814 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Samuel McDonald chr. 1st June, 1817 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald chr. 25th August, 1819 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Hugh McDonald chr. 20th July, 1826 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Rachel McDonald chr. about 1830 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Margaret McDonald chr. 6th January, 1831 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
John McDonald chr. 17th March, 1833 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Thomas McDonald chr. 28th August, 1835 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
My next posting will take us forward quite a few years and it's quite an important one, because MAYBE, just MAYBE it gives me that link that I'm searching for - the link with the Glasgow area of Lanarkshire, where I believe, (rightly or wrongly),that John Jackson FERNS met up with Elizabeth McDonald, his first wife.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi!
I wonder if this is going to be one of those all-important links that I've been searching for over some considerable time.
I had a good, hard look at the following information, and when you do the same, will you agree that the old gentleman that we are looking at is the widower of Jane McCubbin? Jane, you will remember is the lady who had died on 14th June, 1861 at the age of 64.
1881 Census.
Dwelling: 62 Mount Street,
Census Place: Barony, Lanarkshire.
Source: FHL Film 0203663 GRO Ref: Vol: 644-9 Enum Dist: 67 Page 1
James McDonald Head Widower Age 90 Retired Ag. Lab. b. Stoneykirk, Wig.
Jane McDonald Daur Unmarr " 52 Laundress b. Stoneykirk, Wig.
Jane Crammond Boarder Unmarr " 16 Butcher's Asst. b. Glasgow, Lanark.
If what I think is correct, then we should pencill in Jane into the list that I gave you of the children of James McDonald and Jane McCubbin.
Now, what I would give for a look at the Death Certificate of the old man shown above!
My very best wishes to all,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi,
After a spot of Lunch, I did manage to find that missing Marriage Certificate that I mentioned on Reply #11. Here it is:
Extracted Marriage Certificate for James McDonald and Jane (Jean) McCubbin.
Batch No: M118982.
Married: 19th June, 1813 at
Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hi!
Although we have discussed the McDonalds born in Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire and will continue to do so on this posting, let's also take a look at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtownshire which is about 10 miles to the south of Stoneykirk.
There is an extracted marriage certificate:
Batch No: M118904 Dates: 1779-1854 Source Call No: 1068038
James McDonald married Rachel Campbell on the 21st June, 1787 at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtownshire.
I also have extracted birth/christening records for their children, i.e. Batch No's: C118902 and C118982.
William McDonald chr. 29th March, 1789 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald chr. 30th January, 1792 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Samuel McDonald chr. 9th June, 1795 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
David McDonald chr. 3rd August, 1800 at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtown.
As we can now see, the McDonalds were quite concentrated in the Wigtown Peninsula from Stranraer on the shores of Loch Ryan almost down to the Mull of Galloway.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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