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chinacharlie
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Riley Smith of Royston
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking to find anyone who may have some info on Riley Smith, he was born in the ISLE OF ELY, CAMBRIDGESHIRE abt 1885, son of Aaron & Susan Smith ( gypsy's ), from what i can make out he spent most of his childhood around Hertfordshire.
I believe he married someone by the name of Cinderella ( maiden name not known ) and settled in Royston where if what i've been told is true they had as many as ten or more children which were all girls and they were all named after different flowers.
One more thing about Riley, he was said to have artificial legs but i don't know if this would've been through some sort of horrific accident or as a result of WW1, either way people often spoke of Riley's 'tin legs', it would be nice to find some info on him as he seems to be another one of my relatives to vanish without trace.

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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:51 UTC (UK) »
He was living in Markyate Herts with his parents and siblings in 1901 - details on your earlier thread

Checking FreeBMD I am amazed at how many Riley Smiths there are

Knowing the Loveridge links, who's Humphrey Smith who married Cinderella Loveridge in Huntingdon in 1910?


David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
chinacharlie
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 12:24 UTC (UK) »
That's a good question David, i know of a Humphrey Smith from Cambridge who was the nephew of Riley, he went by the name of 'Brummy' Smith and he was the son of my great aunt Emily 'Emmy' Smith but obviously this marriage in 1910 was far too early to be him so i'm wondering if the Humphrey you found could in fact be Riley, but the name change is really throwing me, Riley did appear on the 1911 census but again he was in Hertfordshire, but no matter how hard i try i just cannot find him in or around Cambridge. I contacted a relative quite a long time ago now who lives in Biggleswade and she would be the niece of Riley Smith although she never knew him, but she assured me that he lived most of his adult life in Royston and he was a knife grinder by trade as a lot of them were.
Also, it's surprising how many Riley Smiths there are isn't it?
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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
chinacharlie
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 12:44 UTC (UK) »
I've just been checking the BMD records and i can't seem to find a death registration for Riley Smith, now, i spoke to my old mum and she told me that Riley came all the way over from Royston to Toddington to attend his sisters funeral, she was my nan, and that was in 1963 so he would have been roughly about 78yrs.

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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
bedfordshire boy
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 18:11 UTC (UK) »
At the moment GRO death records 1963-83 haven't been indexed, so you have to plough the indexes through quarter by quarter. But if you can hang on for a month or so a well known genealogy company says that the index may come online in December, when it should be much easier to find him.

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 00:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi, I am also doing the PARKER,SMITH and LOVERIDGE family's from the same area, I used to Live round there (Royston) I have only just started looking at the family names recently. I have just started my mum side, My mum was a BRINKLEY and as far as I know her "cousins" was "The flower Girls"  the daughers of Riley SMITH My mum was born 1927, I have names but as yet no dates as I just started recently. I am still in contact with Riley side.
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chinacharlie
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 10:33 UTC (UK) »
Hi pippi'
Thank god, at last, someone who is researching the same family, Grin i was beginning to think that there wasn't anyone else related to my side of the family. My old mum always told me that Riley had quite a few daughters and they were all named after flowers, do you know the name of Riley's wife as i was led to believe her name was Cinderella Huh, i have only just recently uncovered the Parker side of the family and i'm waiting for a birth certificate to arrive to confirm one or two things, and by the way!! my old nan 's name was Minnie Smith and she was one of Riley's sisters Cheesy Cheesy.

Best Wishes
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Family romany names of special interest;
LOVERIDGES from Bedfordshire;
SMITHS from Cambridgeshire;
Also the PARKERS and AYRES families.

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire;
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire;
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Re: Riley Smith of Royston
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi china, or may I say, cuz. ; I was told  there was 13 kids by Riley. Now as I said I have no dates as yet but, Do you realize there at least 3 Riley Smith from that line if not 4.

I no this group of SMITH as I used to hang about with them, yes they are a very large family. You will have trouble finding bapt etc because they used all three surnames simutainiously. If you no what I'M saying?

The Riley SMITH snr was with SAUGER or SAUGGEE PARKER. Married or not ?

Your nan was Riley sister which Riley?
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Pippi
" The flower Girls" Rose,poppy,pansy,violet,lille,daisy and ?
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