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Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« on: Wednesday 25 June 08 18:28 UTC (UK) »

Bit of a long shot this one, but I am researching the Tally Ho Inn in Great Wilbraham where my Grt Grt Grt Grandparents were landlords circa 1861-1871.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who might have information about the Inn and it's history in the village.  It was on High Street, but not sure when it ceased to be an Inn.

Also any information on The Gate Inn also in Great Wilbraham circa 1881 -1901, where my Grt Grt Grandparents were landlord's.

Thanks for looking

SJ Detective
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 08:45 UTC (UK) »

S.J.Detective,
If you could let me know which of your Cambs families were running those pubs in Gt. Wilbraham, I'll make enquiries next time I'm up at the CCRO, possibly later this week.  Will also ask one or two people with local knowledge of the village,
Regards, keith
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 July 08 14:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Keith,

Here's some names for you.

At the Tally Ho! previous to 1861 I'd be looking for William & Sarah Ireson and their daughter Elizabeth Ireson who appears to have taken over the family business according to census.  In Dec 1863 Elizabeth marries Joseph Pilgrim.  Elizabeth Pilgrim is quoted as Publican 1861 at the Tally Ho! and thereafter.  Joseph appears to die before 1871 and Elizabeth sometime after 1891.

Elizabeth had a daughter Mary Ann Ireson (appears illegitimate) and she marries Charles Cross in Oct 1874 a Baker.  They both run The Gate Inn as Bakers/Publicans until I'd guess Feb 1915 when Charles dies.  I believe Mary Ann dies about 1930 in Little Wilbraham.

Hope that helps a bit.  I look forward to hearing how you get on.  Many thanks for your time in looking and helping with my research.

SJ Detective
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 July 08 15:13 UTC (UK) »

Fine, S.J Detective,
I'll see whether I can fill in any more details when I'm up at Shire Hall tomorrow for a while...
keith
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 July 08 16:19 UTC (UK) »

S.J Detective,
I expect like me you've googled and discovered South Cambs District Council planning applications, with particular reference to the one: C/0416/60
"R/O Tally Ho Public House Gt Wilbrahm.  Erection of Houses and Bungalows 01-07-1948  In progress.
But I'm imagining you're wanting to know what happened between 1891 and 1948, whether it continued as a public house...
Haven't been to the village recently, but would you like me to take a photo or two of what is there now next time I go?
keith
N.B.  Not quite sure what "R/O" means, any ideas anyone?
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 July 08 15:18 UTC (UK) »

HI Keith

Rear of ?

Rosie
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 July 08 19:22 UTC (UK) »

Rosie,
Could well be that, so maybe it was still there in 1948 after all...
keith
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 July 08 19:58 UTC (UK) »

So, S.J Detective,
I did have a quick look in some Cambs directories, the ones for 1864, 1869 and 1879, but could find no mention of either pub, or the name IRESON; though two or three other public houses were mentioned for Gt. Wilbraham at this time...
Sorry I couldn't find anything more,
keith
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 July 08 13:19 UTC (UK) »

Rosie,
Could well be that, so maybe it was still there in 1948 after all...
keith

Certainly looks possible Keith, 
I can't find any mention of it other than the planning that you found. Not even pictures on the Francis Frith postcard site  Huh
All I kept coming up with was The Tally Ho in Trumpington which is where some of my family were in the late 1800's.
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 July 08 13:31 UTC (UK) »

Rosie,
What a coincidence, this is.  I used to walk along the Trumpington Rd from Cambridge when I first came to live here in the early 70's to have a drink in the Tally Ho ( and The Green Man...and The Unicorn...)
Pretty sure that THIS Tally Ho was demolished some time ago, though...
keith
Wait a minute, perhaps it was another pub on the High Street that disappeared, not the Tally Ho, as I think that's actually still there....!
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 July 08 13:38 UTC (UK) »

Rosie,
It was The Grasshopper that disappeared, just remembered.  Obviously too many pints sunk in the village in my youth are playing havoc with my memory...
keith
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 July 08 12:18 UTC (UK) »

Keith

I have also savoured the liquid refreshment in the Tally Ho Trumpington, about 5 years ago then on to the Unicorn for lunch.  I had to stay sober though for the coach journey home. I will return.  Grin

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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 July 08 13:06 UTC (UK) »

Rosie,
I do hope it wasn't you who had to drive that coach home...!
Now where has S.J Dectective got to since Thursday?  We need to discover how much about the subsequent fate of the Tally Ho he/she already knows.  Will certainly pay a visit to Gt. Wilbraham next week to have a look along the High Street, and maybe ask a few questions of elderly residents (if there are any left living there)...
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 11:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Keith & Rosie99,

Great to hear from both of you and many thanks for your time and help in looking for Tally Ho information.

I know absolutely nothing about the Tally Ho, apart from what's on Census returns and these give it as being on High Street, Grt Wilbraham.  I had found the 1948 planning application but wondered if it was redeveloped soon after and demolished in phase two once the rear had been developed?

I know Joseph Pilgrim died sometime before 1871 and that Elizabeth (Ireson) his wife carried on as Publican until at least 1891.  I don't have a death date for Elizabeth Pilgrim.  Not been able to locate her or the Tally Ho in the 1901 census yet.  That might be useful if anyone can locate it in 1901 and who was living there?

It would be great if you could take some photos of the area Keith and ask the locals about the Tally Ho.  I've not been able to get over to the Cambs area since I started this research a few years ago, so any photos and snippets of local history would be very gratefully received.  Sounds like you know the area and it's Inn's very well Keith?

My Grandparents (mothers side) were from Grt Wilbraham/Lit Wilbraham area so we have strong family connections with the area.  All I have seen recently is the Google mapping imagery so would be nice to see the village from the ground.

As you say the Tally Ho in Trumpington is refered to a lot but the Tally Ho at Grt Wilbraham seems to have been lost in the mists of time, perhaps as you say some locals might remember it?

Correction to my original post - The Gate Inn was in actual fact in Little Wilbraham.

Many thanks again, I look forward to hearing from you again soon.  Sounds like I owe you a pint at a local hostelry.

SJ Detective
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Re: Tally Ho! Inn at Great Wilbraham
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 13:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi again, S.J.,
Thanks for all that additional info...
And perhaps if The Gate Inn was in Lt. Wibraham it might possibly be the same place as The Hole in the Wall at 2, High Street which has been a pub in this village "for 500 years or so".  The present gastro pub was reopened 2 years ago after refurbishment.
There's a slight chance that I might get out that way later this afternoon and see whether I can find anything out, at both the Wilbrahams...
keith
p.s. It looks as though the only pub in existence today in Gt. Wilbraham is The Carpenters Arms, also in the village's High Street
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