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psykozmika
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Higginbottom/Carlyon
« on: Thursday 26 June 08 20:14 UTC (UK) »

 Grin Wondering if anyone has any information on Phillias Higginbottom.  I know she married quiet a few times and had 7 children, also i know she was a twin, her twin was lillian.

Here is the info that i have on her

Phillias Higginbottom born 1934
Parents were Jean May Robinson Born 1911, Hector Reid Higginbottom born 1901

She married Albert Sydney Carlyon, he was born in 1885, i understand that he was also married prior to marrying phillias.

She had 7 children, one is my mother.  Seems that my mother has 3 half siblings out there so any information on either would be lovely,  i do have quiet alot of information on Phillias parents though. Mainly after her DOB and any other things who else she married etc.

Appreciate your help, thanks
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 June 08 21:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi psykozmika

Just wanted to check your dates - as you have  the husband of P. as 49 years the senior of his wife??

Is the person here known to you?
http://www.familytreecircles.com/user/RobynJoyce/

Also, if either P or A S are ( or could be ) still living, I think perhaps their names should not be publicised ....We understand your search for information , but Rootschat does have policy on naming people where themselves or their children could still be living and feel their privacy is compromised..... Cheesy  Just a friendly comment.

Cheers
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 June 08 21:05 UTC (UK) »

Hey thank you for that,  thats my mum Smiley in the link, shes looking too.

Albert and phillias passed away and yes the age is correct, he was alot older thank his wife.

Sorry if what i put was too much info, am i able to request the details be pMd to me or is that a no no too?
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 June 08 21:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi again  Grin

I see you also have a tree on the same site as your Mum!
Thank you for clarifying - I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure if they wll be OK with what you already posted  Grin

But here is a link  Wink to your other site
http://www.familytreecircles.com/journal_14032.html

Absolutely by all means, information may be exchanged by PM, if it's too sensitive to be public due to privacy etc!!. and I'm sure there are Chatters who could help and will be happy to do that (including me but I just dabble in Australia  - there are greater experts out there :-))

It would seems to me there is a good deal more to the 'situation". And you mother is searching for unknown siblings - is that the case?  My question is: Where in Australia did P. and Syd (which he was know as)  die and have you got their death certificates?

Kind regards  Grin
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 June 08 21:23 UTC (UK) »

Yep there is lots of more info Smiley alot of half siblings out there as well, most of whom have passed.  I will ask a mod if my OP is ok though i assume that it is as they have passed away but will check.
I will pm you what info i have about albert Smiley and yeah thats my other link hunting high and low just so we know where we all come from.
Thanks
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tropicalj
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:12 UTC (UK) »

Albert Sidney CARYLON died aged 74 at Bendigo in 1958  reg no 24171
father unknown mother unknown


A copy  of  this  death certificate  should  have all  his  children details  but that will only  depend on  who supplied  the information

regards Jenn

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Ronald George Carlyon died aged 45 at Richmondin 1969  reg no 21171
father Albert Sydney Carylon  mother Gertrude Laura Doyle

Thelma Lorna Victoria Carylon died aged 1  in 1927 at Carlton reg no 4626
father Albert Carylon  mother Gerte Doyle

regards Jenn
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I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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tropicalj
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:23 UTC (UK) »

Here is  the  first wifes death


Gertrude Laura Victoria CARYLON  died aged 61 in 1949 at North Richmond  reg no 9474
father John Bernard Doyle  mother Ada unknown

regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!

I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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cando
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:24 UTC (UK) »

Marriage

CARLYON Albt Sidney  Born Moonta SA
DOYLE  Mother Gerte Laura Vic   Born Bendigo
1906  Reg# 696

Cheers
Cando
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tropicalj
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Now going by  the  information  you  have supplied  
your granmother Phillas was born  in  1934
she married  Albert Sydney Carlyon  when not stated?

Albert's first wife died in 1949  and Albert died in 1958

so  in  the  9  years  after  his first wives death  and  his death  he  had  7  children  with  your grandmother.

Does this seem  right to  you?

regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!

I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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cando
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:28 UTC (UK) »

A couple of births

CARLYON  Albt Hy
Father  Albt Sidney  Mother Gerte Laura Victoria DOYLE:
At Bendigo  190  Reg# 8072

CARLYON Jno Bernard
Father Albt Sydney  Mother Gerte Laura Vic DOYLE
At Armadale  1910  Reg# 104

Cheers
Cando

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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:32 UTC (UK) »

There is  this death  that  may be of interest to you

Noel Clifford Higginbottom died aged 0 at Cmaine reg no 23108 in 1951 (information editied in later by  Jenn)
father unknown  mother Phyllis Joyce Higginbottom

regards Jenn


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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!

I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

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cando
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:34 UTC (UK) »

There is a thread on Phillias and family
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,311205.0.html
and I am wondering if the death cert/image of Hector HIGGINBOTTOM [HIGGINBOTHAM on the index] was purchased to find the names of the 20 children.

Have you Phillias's death certificate...that should show her marriages and children.

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 June 08 22:49 UTC (UK) »

Birth

CARLYON   Albert Sidney
Date25 Jan 1885
Father John Henry CARLYON   Mother Priscilla DAVIS
At Moonta Mines
Ref  Dal 344/81

Cando

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Re: Higginbottom/Carlyon
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 June 08 23:01 UTC (UK) »

John Bernard CARLYON died aged 74 in Rye in 1984 reg no 03035
father Albert Sydney  mother Gertrude Vict

Edna Jean Dorothy CHADWICK died in 1984 aged 65 reg no 11673 at Ivan
father Albert Carlyon  mother Gertrude Lorna V

Regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!

I live in Townsville, Australia researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
 EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
In Australia
Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend,
Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson,

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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