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Graham Whitehead
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1871 Census Wolverhampton
« on: Saturday 28 June 08 17:44 BST (UK) »

Please is there anyone who could look up 1871 Census record for James BOWERS and Annie Amelia Bowers with son George Edward. (b.1866) They were living at Bilston Rd, Wolverhampton in 1866 but though I have tried Ancestry.com I cannot seem to find them at all.  Any help much appreciated.
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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 June 08 18:39 BST (UK) »

They are on the 1881 - do you have that?

well hidden on 1871


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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 June 08 20:58 BST (UK) »

Yes thanks I have 1881 and I made a mistake it is Amelia not Annie Amelia.
Think it must be the indexes to 1871 that are lacking as there seems no sign of them.  Anyhow thanks for looking.  If anyone else can look say in Wolverhampton itself where they may have the films, or Stafford RO would appreciate any information.
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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 June 08 01:55 BST (UK) »

Don't think it's an ancestry problem.   Have just looked on findmypast and no sign of them on there either.

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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 June 08 12:19 BST (UK) »

Hiya Graham

On FreeREG there is the marriage of James and Amelia

2.4.1865 St Johns Wolverhampton

James Bowers 26 Blacksmith Bilston Road Amelia Stanley 20 Bilston Road father Thomas Edward Bowers boatman no father listed for Amelia witnesses George Lea and Alice Lineton banns

Baptism for James 30.12.1830 St Peters parents Thomas (boatman) and Sarah

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Will have a further look when I come back online tonight

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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 June 08 14:58 BST (UK) »

Many thanks Annette and Willow.  Good to have the marriage but am still amazed at lack of 1871 Census even if Staffs not put in on Ancestry they are still illusove.  Would be glad to solve it.
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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 June 08 15:20 BST (UK) »

If the 1865 groom is a boatman, then they could both be on the canals just about anywhere in '71.

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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 June 08 15:41 BST (UK) »

If the 1865 groom is a boatman, then they could both be on the canals just about anywhere in '71.

Pauline
Thanks Pauline but is the groom's father a boatman, groom is a blacksmith.
A direCtory gives them in Wolverhampton in 1865.
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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 June 08 16:05 BST (UK) »

 Sorry does'nt help with census, and you may already

have this info,but if not...

Baptism Dec.30 1830 St Peter or Colliegate Wolverhampton
James Bowers
Parents Thomas + Sarah

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 June 08 16:07 BST (UK) »


You do have this info

I should read these posts more carefully!!!

          Sorry

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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 June 08 20:02 BST (UK) »

Hiya Graham

I cant find them at all in 1871

But from the 1881 census did you notice William Stanley stepson?

In fact all the Bowers are proving hard to find. Off FreeREG there are the following siblings for James all baptised St Peters

Salley 5.1.1834
Thomas 11.8.1830
John 12.12.1827
Emily Homer 9.4.1824
Ann 10.9.1821

I have found Thomas his father in 1851 but cant see him in the 1841

Thomas 62 Head b Wolverhampton carriers porter
Sarah 58 wife b Wolverhampton
Sally 16 dau b Wolverhampton house servant

HO107/2019 Folio 870 Page 22

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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 June 08 20:32 BST (UK) »

just to add that I can't spot them either   Cry

Has anyone found Amelia Stanley prior to marriage?

1881 has a William Stanley 19 yrs step son (born about 1862) and a Charlotte Stanley 12 yrs niece.
According to this census she is born abt 1835.
On her marriage on Free Reg she is 20 yrs in 1865 - b abt 1845.
1891 b abt 1837
1901 b abt 1833 and they have Violet Stanley 6 yrs grandchild with them.

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1861 RG9; Piece: 2135; Folio: 56; Page: 11
Enoch Hanley[/b] with wife [b]Amelia[i][/i] - there is a 2 month old Willie plus others though. Can't find them after  and they do look as if it could be Stanley. The 'S' for Stanley and 'Smith' in occupation is same.
They are living Birmingham but there are some deaths for Enoch Stanley and a marriage 1853 with a possible bride Amelia Partrirdge- would have to be verified.
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Re: 1871 Census Wolverhampton
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 June 08 21:45 BST (UK) »

Hello Heywood
I can tell you Amelia Stanley was a widow when she married James Bowers.
Her maiden name was Partridge.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 June 08 23:12 BST (UK) »

Well spotted Heywood

From FreeREG she was actually b 1832 parents David and Mary baptism 13.2.1832 St Peters.

She married Enoch Stanley 16.1.1853 at St Peters. Enoch was 20 an Iron tyre maker Amelia full age

Shes a servant at Darlaston in 1851

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 June 08 17:19 BST (UK) »

Hi everyone,
yes I saw her as a servant- I thought she had fibbed a bit on her marriage but not so! She just admitted to being of full age.  Wink

So wherever they are in 1871- none of us can find them. I am sure that between us we have tried all variations - odd though!

The more you look at this ... Huh
Willow and Jackie have a baptism 1830.
marriage in 1865 - he is 26 yrs (Willow) making him born c1839
1881 census - James is 42 yrs b 1839.

Has anyone got him in 1861? Is this him?

1861 RG9; Piece: 1996; Folio: 63; Page: 20  (transcribed as Bonen)
Gt Chapel Street Wolverhampton
James Bowers (looks like that) stepson 22 yrs blacksmith b Wolverhampton
there is also a James and a Thomas

(parents are Thomas and Mary Ann Beaumont)

Just checked they are not at 26 Pountney Street -as in 1881

last thing- if he was blacksmith- the canal horses would need blacksmiths so he could still be travelling around.
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