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wildgoose
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Can anyone help with census info. on the family below:
Cheers 
Name: Charles HAGGIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 1845 Temple, Edinburgh Occupation: Engine Keeper Foundry Marriage: 16 6 1865 Boness, Linlithgowshire ---------------------------------------- Spouse: Grace TAIT ---------------------------------------- Birth: 1847 Ireland
Children: ---------------------------------------- 1 F: Agnes Waldie HEGGIE Birth: 19 8 1874 Boness, Linlithgowshire Spouse: Richard PARK Marriage: 26 3 1897 Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire ---------------------------------------- 2 M: Robert HAGGIE Birth: 1877 Boness, Linlithgowshire ---------------------------------------- 3 F: Margaret HAGGIE Birth: 1878 Boness, Linlithgowshire ---------------------------------------- 4 F: Helen HAGGIE Birth: 1880 Boness, Linlithgowshire
Notes for Charles HAGGIE 1881 Census recs. Dwelling: Northbank Cottages Census Place: Carriden, Linlithgow, Scotland Charles HAGGIE M 36 M Temple, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Engine Keeper Foundry Grace Tait HAGGIE M 34 F Ireland Rel: Wife Agnes HAGGIE 6 F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Robert HAGGIE 4 M Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Son Maggie HAGGIE 3 F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur Ellen HAGGIE 1 F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur John TAIT 2 m M Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Nephew
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated. Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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kennyg
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Hi,
In 1851, Charles (shown as aged was living with his parents John (a Pit Labourer above ground, aged 51, born Haddington) and Agness (aged 43, born Eddleston, Peebleshire) and his 6 siblings - John (Pit Labourer above ground, 15, Penicuik), Agness (13, Penicuik), Grace (10, Penicuik), Robert (6, Temple), Sarah (3, Bo'ness) and Serris (5 months, Carriden). They are living at Poonareya Farm, Mutton Hole. I suspect the Farm name is a mistranscription. The youngest is a son whose name is unclear.
Originally known as Muttonhole, Davidson's Mains is now part of the city of Edinburgh. It is situated roughly 3 miles north west of the city centre, close to the north end of Costorphine Hill.
In 1861 the 18 year old Charles is still at home with Mum and Dad. He is an Ironstone Miner and the family live at Northbank Cot-House in Carriden. His Father is a Nightwatchman at the Pithead. 3 younger siblings remain at home with him - Robert (16, Ironstone Miner), Sarah (15, Scholar) and Jerris (10, Scholar). The name of the youngest remains interesting!
The elderly John and Agnes (72 and 60 respectively) are living in a house on Northbank Farm in 1871. He is shown as unable to work. 30 year old Grace is at home with a 5 year old (shown as Grand-daughter of John) called Agnes. Their eldest son John, a Pit Engine Driver, is also living on Northbank Farm with his family (wife Jane and 5 children).
Charles, a Coal Pit Engineman, is married to Grace by 1871 and they are shown as living in North Street, Bo'ness with two children - Rachel (aged 5) and John (aged 3).
1891 sees Charles (an Enginekeeper) and Grace living at 95, Kingscavil Rows in Linlithgow with 5 children - Robert (14, a Mines Brakesman), Maggie (a 12 year old scholar), Nellie (10, Scholar), Isabella (4) and Sarah (1). There is also an 8 year old Visitor, Hans Wylie.
Same address and occupation in 1901. Children though are Rachel H Ramsay (aged 35), Robert W (24, Arts Student), Nellie T (Servant Domestic) and Isabella Mc (14, Scholar).
Hope all this is useful and interesting.
Regards,
Kenny
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wildgoose
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Many thanks. Just a couple of questions. Do you know the maiden name of John HAGGIE snr.'s spouse as all I have is Agnes  What sex was the child Serris or Jerris  Also Robert (son of Charles) is shown as a brakesman age 14 but 10 years later he is an art student. That seems to be quite a career move
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated. Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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kennyg
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I believe Agnes's maiden name was Waldie - son Robert married Isabella McLaren in 1867 (see http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/AngloScots/G.pdf).
I did mention that youngest was a son.
At 14, Robert would naturally have followed his Father to the pit - by the time he's 24 he may well have found his true calling! He would certainly have known his own mind by then.
Kenny
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wildgoose
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many thanks.
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated. Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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maz7552
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I have the MI's for West Lothian and found,
Bo'ness, Corbiehill
18: (fallen stone) Charles HAGGIE, w Grace TAIT, chn William 08/09/1870 5ys, Wm 23/01/1873 [2]0m, a son d 30/09/18-- in inf .
Don't know if this helps any.
Maz
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wildgoose
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It is definitely the family I have been researching. Is there any mention of a death date for Charles, or age, or Garce 
Many thanks 
PS you don't have a photo of the headstone 
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« Last Edit: Monday 28 July 08 17:56 UTC (UK) by wildgoose »
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated. Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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Hi Just to put the record straight the youngest son of John Haggie and Agnes Waldie was my g grandfather and his name was Terris Haggie not jerris. Dancing Queen.
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wildgoose
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Name: John HAGGIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 1801 Haddington Occupation: Pit labourer Spouse: Agnes WALDIE ---------------------------------------- Birth: 1808 Eddleston, Peebleshire
Children: ---------------------------------------- 1 M: John HAGGIE Birth: 1835 Penicuik, Midlothian Occupation: Pit labourer later Time Keeper New Grange Fdy Religion: Presbyterian Spouse: Jane Angus DUNN Marriage: 19 12 1856 Carriden, Linlithgowshire1 ---------------------------------------- 2 F: Agnes HAGGIE Birth: 1838 Penicuik, Midlothian ---------------------------------------- 3 F: Grace HAGGIE Birth: 1841 Penicuik, Midlothian ---------------------------------------- 4 M: Charles HAGGIE Birth: 1845 Temple, Edinburgh Occupation: Engine Keeper Foundry Religion: Church of Scotland Spouse: Grace TAIT Marriage: 16 6 1865 Boness, Linlithgowshire2 ---------------------------------------- 5 M: Robert HAGGIE Birth: 1845 Temple, Midlothian Occupation: Ironstone miner Religion: Presbyterian Spouse: Isabella McLAREN Marriage: 22 3 1867 Boness, Linlithgowshire3 ---------------------------------------- 6 F: Sarah HAGGIE Birth: 1848 Boness, Linlithgowshire ---------------------------------------- 7 M: Terris HAGGIE Birth: 1851 Carriden, Linlithgowshire
Notes for John HAGGIE 1851 Census recs. Dwelling: Poonareya Farm? Census Place: Mutton Hole, Linlithgowshire John HAGGIE, head, marr., 51, Pit labourer above ground, ELN, Haddington Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 43, PEE, Eddleston John, son, 15, Pit labourer, MLN, Penicuik Agnes, daur., 13, MLN, Penicuik Grace, daur., 10, MLN, Penicuik Charles, son, 8, Scholar, MLN, Temple Robert, son, 6, MLN, Temple Sarah, daur., 3, WLN, Boness Serris?, son, 5 months, WLN, Carriden 1861 Census recs. Dwelling: Northbank Cot house Census Place: Carriden, WLN John HAGGIE, head, marr., 60, Nightwatchman at Pithead, ELN, Haddington Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 49, PEE, Eddleston Charles, son, unm., 18, Ironstone miner, MLN, Temple Robert, son, unm., 16, Ironstone miner, MLN, Temple Sarah, daur., 13, Scholar, WLN, Boness Jerris?, son, 10, Scholar, WLN, Carriden 1871 Census recs. Dwelling: Northbank Farm Census Place: Carriden, WLN John HAGGIE, head, marr., 72, Unable to work, ELN, Haddington Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 60, PEE, Eddleston Grace, daur., 30, MLN, Penicuik Agnes, gdaur. John HAGGIE, 5. Their eldest son John, a Pit Engine Driver, is also living on Northbank Farm with his family (wife Jane and 5 children).
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated. Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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