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wildgoose
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Haggie family of Boness
« on: Saturday 28 June 08 18:37 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone help with census info. on the family below:

Cheers Grin

Name:   Charles HAGGIE
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Birth:   1845   Temple, Edinburgh
Occupation:   Engine Keeper Foundry
Marriage:   16 6 1865   Boness, Linlithgowshire
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Spouse:   Grace TAIT
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Birth:   1847   Ireland

Children:
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1 F:   Agnes Waldie HEGGIE
Birth:   19 8 1874   Boness, Linlithgowshire
Spouse:   Richard PARK
Marriage:   26 3 1897   Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
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2 M:   Robert HAGGIE
Birth:   1877   Boness, Linlithgowshire
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3 F:   Margaret HAGGIE
Birth:   1878   Boness, Linlithgowshire
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4 F:   Helen HAGGIE
Birth:   1880   Boness, Linlithgowshire


Notes for Charles HAGGIE
1881 Census recs.
Dwelling: Northbank Cottages
Census Place: Carriden, Linlithgow, Scotland
Charles HAGGIE M 36  M Temple, Edinburgh, Scotland  Rel: Head  Occ: Engine Keeper Foundry
Grace Tait HAGGIE M 34  F Ireland  Rel: Wife
Agnes HAGGIE   6  F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland  Rel: Daur  Occ: Scholar
Robert HAGGIE   4  M Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland  Rel: Son
Maggie HAGGIE   3  F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland  Rel: Daur
Ellen HAGGIE   1  F Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland  Rel: Daur
John TAIT   2 m M Bo'ness, Linlithgow, Scotland  Rel: Nephew



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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 July 08 19:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

In 1851, Charles (shown as aged Cool was living with his parents John (a Pit Labourer above ground, aged 51, born Haddington) and Agness (aged 43, born Eddleston, Peebleshire) and his 6 siblings - John (Pit Labourer above ground, 15, Penicuik), Agness (13, Penicuik), Grace (10, Penicuik), Robert (6, Temple), Sarah (3, Bo'ness) and Serris (5 months, Carriden).  They are living at Poonareya Farm, Mutton Hole.  I suspect the Farm name is a mistranscription.  The youngest is a son whose name is unclear.

Originally known as Muttonhole, Davidson's Mains is now part of the city of Edinburgh. It is situated roughly 3 miles north west of the city centre, close to the north end of Costorphine Hill.

In 1861 the 18 year old Charles is still at home with Mum and Dad.  He is an Ironstone Miner and the family live at Northbank Cot-House in Carriden.  His Father is a Nightwatchman at the Pithead.  3 younger siblings remain at home with him - Robert (16, Ironstone Miner), Sarah (15, Scholar) and Jerris (10, Scholar).  The name of the youngest remains interesting!

The elderly John and Agnes (72 and 60 respectively) are living in a house on Northbank Farm in 1871.  He is shown as unable to work.  30 year old Grace is at home with a 5 year old (shown as Grand-daughter of John) called Agnes.  Their eldest son John, a Pit Engine Driver, is also living on Northbank Farm with his family (wife Jane and 5 children).

Charles, a Coal Pit Engineman, is married to Grace by 1871 and they are shown as living in North Street, Bo'ness with two children - Rachel (aged 5) and John (aged 3).

1891 sees Charles (an Enginekeeper) and Grace living at 95, Kingscavil Rows in Linlithgow with 5 children - Robert (14, a Mines Brakesman), Maggie (a 12 year old scholar), Nellie (10, Scholar), Isabella (4) and Sarah (1).  There is also an 8 year old Visitor, Hans Wylie.

Same address and occupation in 1901.  Children though are Rachel H Ramsay (aged 35), Robert W (24, Arts Student), Nellie T (Servant Domestic) and Isabella Mc (14, Scholar).

Hope all this is useful and interesting.

Regards,

Kenny   

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wildgoose
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 July 08 21:25 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks.  Just a couple of questions.
Do you know the maiden name of John HAGGIE snr.'s spouse as all I have is Agnes  Huh
What sex was the child Serris or Jerris Huh
Also Robert (son of Charles) is shown as a brakesman age 14 but 10 years later he is an art student.  That seems to be quite a career move Huh
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 July 08 21:43 UTC (UK) »

I believe Agnes's maiden name was Waldie - son Robert married Isabella McLaren in 1867 (see  http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/AngloScots/G.pdf).

I did mention that youngest was a son.

At 14, Robert would naturally have followed his Father to the pit - by the time he's 24 he may well have found his true calling!  He would certainly have known his own mind by then.

Kenny




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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 July 08 22:13 UTC (UK) »

many thanks. 
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 July 08 13:20 UTC (UK) »

I have the MI's for West Lothian and found,

Bo'ness, Corbiehill

18: (fallen stone) Charles HAGGIE, w Grace TAIT, chn William 08/09/1870 5ys, Wm 23/01/1873 [2]0m, a son d 30/09/18-- in inf .

Don't know if this helps any.

Maz
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 July 08 15:29 UTC (UK) »

It is definitely the family I have been researching.  Is there any mention of a death date for Charles, or age, or Garce Cry

Many thanks  Grin

PS you don't have a photo of the headstone Roll Eyes

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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 11:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi, nothing else for them I'm afraid.  I don't have a picture of the headstone at the moment but I am taking pics of West Lothian churchyards and will be doing Bo'ness at some point,

Maz
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 April 09 21:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Just to put the record straight the youngest son of John Haggie and Agnes Waldie
was my g grandfather and his name was Terris Haggie not jerris.
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Re: Haggie family of Boness
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 07:13 UTC (UK) »

Name:   John HAGGIE
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Birth:   1801   Haddington
Occupation:   Pit labourer
Spouse:   Agnes WALDIE
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Birth:   1808   Eddleston, Peebleshire

Children:
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1 M:   John HAGGIE
Birth:   1835   Penicuik, Midlothian
Occupation:   Pit labourer later Time Keeper New Grange Fdy
Religion:   Presbyterian
Spouse:   Jane Angus DUNN
Marriage:   19 12 1856   Carriden, Linlithgowshire1
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2 F:   Agnes HAGGIE
Birth:   1838   Penicuik, Midlothian
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3 F:   Grace HAGGIE
Birth:   1841   Penicuik, Midlothian
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4 M:   Charles HAGGIE
Birth:   1845   Temple, Edinburgh
Occupation:   Engine Keeper Foundry
Religion:   Church of Scotland
Spouse:   Grace TAIT
Marriage:   16 6 1865   Boness, Linlithgowshire2
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5 M:   Robert HAGGIE
Birth:   1845   Temple, Midlothian
Occupation:   Ironstone miner
Religion:   Presbyterian
Spouse:   Isabella McLAREN
Marriage:   22 3 1867   Boness, Linlithgowshire3
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6 F:   Sarah HAGGIE
Birth:   1848   Boness, Linlithgowshire
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7 M:   Terris HAGGIE
Birth:   1851   Carriden, Linlithgowshire


Notes for John HAGGIE
1851 Census recs.
Dwelling: Poonareya Farm?
Census Place: Mutton Hole, Linlithgowshire
John HAGGIE, head, marr., 51, Pit labourer above ground, ELN, Haddington
Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 43, PEE, Eddleston
John, son, 15, Pit labourer, MLN, Penicuik
Agnes, daur., 13, MLN, Penicuik
Grace, daur., 10, MLN, Penicuik
Charles, son, 8, Scholar, MLN, Temple
Robert, son, 6, MLN, Temple
Sarah, daur., 3, WLN, Boness
Serris?, son, 5 months, WLN, Carriden
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: Northbank Cot house
Census Place: Carriden, WLN
John HAGGIE, head, marr., 60, Nightwatchman at Pithead, ELN, Haddington
Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 49, PEE, Eddleston
Charles, son, unm., 18, Ironstone miner, MLN, Temple
Robert, son, unm., 16, Ironstone miner, MLN, Temple
Sarah, daur., 13, Scholar, WLN, Boness
Jerris?, son, 10, Scholar, WLN, Carriden
1871 Census recs.
Dwelling: Northbank Farm
Census Place: Carriden, WLN
John HAGGIE, head, marr., 72, Unable to work, ELN, Haddington
Agnes Waldie HAGGIE, wife, marr., 60, PEE, Eddleston
Grace, daur., 30, MLN, Penicuik
Agnes, gdaur. John HAGGIE, 5.
Their eldest son John, a Pit Engine Driver, is also living on Northbank Farm with his family (wife Jane and 5 children).
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Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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