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aspin
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Who was Elizabeth Maghie aged 10 living with in 1851
Elizabeth was the daughter of James Maghie and Mary Lowthian she was born Carlisle ?? Cumberland
In 1851 Her father James has re-married and she is not with him
Her grandparents are Thomas and Elizabeth Lowthain
could she be with them
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Hi Elizabeth,
1851
HO107/2429 211 15
Brisco, Cumberland
Newbiggin
Elizabeth Lowthian, head, wid, 53, Occupier of 150 acres employing 3 lab, b. Cumberland Dalston
Maria, dau, unm, 25, b. St Cuthberts
Thomas, son, unm, 22, Yeoman, b. do.
Isaac, son, unm, 20, Yeoman, b. do.
(3 servants)
Elizabeth Maghie, niece, 10, scholar, b. Wetheral
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Thanks Tati for this
I have the Lowthian family in 1841
Thomas 60 a farmer and Elizabeth Lowthian 40 with family
Maria 15
Thomas 13
and Isaac 10
also lodgers
I wonder where Elizabeth the widow comes in if my Elizabeth is her niece
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,South Shields.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns ,Scotland.Thompson's ,Spittal.family of Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland and Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland.and Starks Berwick.Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew farmer Turnbull Berwick & Pode' and Black of Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth
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Barbara thanks
This is my family and James 1812 is my grt grt grandfather I have this with a bit of a confusion with his age but then I've been told you cannot go from what is printed sometimes
James eloped to Gretna Green in October 1847 to marry Anne Young they had 10 children
Anne was his second wife ( this I found out from a GR relative searching the same family ) ???He was killed in1867 aged 49 so that makes him born 1818 .So Mary his first wife must have died between 1841 and 1847 .I have just looked into my family tree and found James had a sister Elizabeth so this solves the problem .Sister Elizabeth Maghie married Thomas Lowthian and Brother James Maghie married Thomas's sister Mary .Its beginning to make sense now .This is the second time this has happened in my family . so now I need to find out who Elizabeth married .I think I will send for her birth certificate to see if I can find out more about her .Thanks too Geoff
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From IGI, children baptised Dalston, Cumberland, all with parents Thomas MC GIE & Jane NAILER Elizabeth MC GIE bapt 11 FEB 1798 Jane MC GHIE 5 MAY 1803 Mary MC GHIE 1 SEP 1805 Thomas MC GHIE 3 JAN 1808 William MC GHIE 19 AUG 1810 James MC GHIE bapt 6 SEP 1812 Barbara
Sorry Barbara just noticed you have Elizabeth entered here its getting late and time for my bed
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BMD have an Elizabeth Maghie marriage at W Derby March 1859
this could be about right as she would be 19yrs old
there are two males to pick from Patrick Burns and James Mitchell
do I have to send for a marriage certificate to find out if this is Elizabeth
and I suppose i could enter the two mens names
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Ecneps
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Hang on and I'll try to eliminate them from looking at the 1861 census
If you do want to buy the cert, you can always ask the local reg office to check any known details before you buy (or you can pay a fee for that if you order through the GRO)
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Thanks Barbara
I have been charged before from GRO when they have done a search for a certificates
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Sorry can't see Elizabeth married to either of those two, in 1861 census. There's a Patrick Burns married to an Elizabeth who was born Wigan, did you realise West Derby is in Lancashire?
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Could well be Barbara
Will have to sleep on it off to bed this time
I was going an hour ago but started to enter more into another family tree site I have Tribelpages
Goodnight and thanks again
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