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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 June 08 08:30 BST (UK) »

You don't suppose she could have married a Lowthian do you?  Roll Eyes  Cheesy

1861 RG9/3901  Folio 83B  Page 4
Plumpton Wall, Cumberland
Thomas Lowthian head m Stonemason b.1833 Lazonby Cumberland
Elizabeth    "         wife  m  Mason's wife  b. 1840 Wetheral, Cumberland


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Ellison    Elizabeth        Penrith    10b   421   
Lowthian    Thomas         Penrith    10b   421    
Scott    William         Penrith    10b   421    
Walker    Elizabeth         Penrith    10b   421

They were in Plumpton Wall, childless, in 1861 too.
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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 June 08 09:23 BST (UK) »

Oh, Geoff, thanks for that!  It was just a thought late last night and I didn't follow it through  Cheesy  Thought it would have been too much of a coincidence.

Ho hum, back to the drawing board, or at least back to searching the 1861 for her...

Barbara  Smiley
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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 June 08 16:21 BST (UK) »

Just popped in
Thanks to both of you
Like you say Barbara it was a thought and it was very late
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 20:31 BST (UK) »

I have left this lot for awhile and come back to it today as another member of the Maghie family has contacted me through GR

We know James Maghie was married to Mary Lowthain and have a daughter Elizabeth

I know James remarried in 1847 Gretna Green to Anne Young

So Mary must have died between the 1841 census and 1847
any chance that someone can find her death
then I can send to Carlisle for Elizabeth's birth and Mary's death at the same time ( Mary Maghie )wife of James

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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 21:02 BST (UK) »

You have a choice ...

Deaths Sep 1841
MCGEE    Mary         Carlisle    25   36

Deaths Jun 1842   
McGEE    Mary         Carlisle    25   32

Deaths Sep 1846
McGEE    Mary         Carlisle    25   35
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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 22:16 BST (UK) »

Thanks Geoff

so if I enter all these dates and James as her husband i may get the right one
this is great thanks again

I'll make it up that way again one day
I pass the road end down to the M6 every week and always say to my husband we'll go that way one day i want you to see Scotby ,Where the Maghie's once lived
The reply is usually not this week  Sad Sad

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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 20 July 08 23:30 BST (UK) »


If you do want to buy the cert, you can always ask the local reg office to check any known details before you buy (or you can pay a fee for that if you order through the GRO)


Hi Elizabeth,

No need to buy all three death certs if you first check for known details with the register office in Carlisle

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 21 July 08 19:36 BST (UK) »

I posted off one £7.00 cheque and gave them all the info I had so here's hoping they have a look for me
They are good they never send you a certificate unless they are sure

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 21 July 08 19:46 BST (UK) »

Please come back and let us know the outcome  Smiley

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 21 July 08 21:54 BST (UK) »

Thanks i will
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« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 July 08 23:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara,

I have received a letter and my cheques back from Carlisle today Sad Sad

No birth of Elizabeth Maghie born 1840

There is the death of an Elizabeth Magee died 1841 daughter of a James and Mary Magee she was aged 5 making her born 1836 before registrations began


While searching for Mary's death years 1841 1842 and 1846 was a respect of a 15 year old girl..

Elizabeth Huh

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 July 08 23:28 BST (UK) »

Sorry forgot to thank you all for helping search for Elizabeth Maghie and her mother Mary




just had a post from one in GR looking for the same family

James Maghie and Ann Young ( his second wife ) As I am from their daughter Ann b 1860 GR rellie is from her bother Thomas

So here we go again

many thanks once more

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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 July 08 23:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Elizabeth

Thanks for letting us know, sorry things didn't turn out too well, hope your new contact brings you some luck

Kind regards,

Barbara  Smiley
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