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Topic: Typing 'foreign' characters e.g. Umlauts (Read 3367 times)
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JLo
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This may be a daft question, but when I'm searching German sites how do I type in an o with the umlaut?
Julie
Moderator Comment: these contributions have been 'collected' here from another topic, hence the occaisional duplications
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Berlin-Bob
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Typing german Umlauts:
(and other foreign letters)
In German there are 4 special characters, which also have alternative spellings:
(Umlaut is pronounced Umlout)
ä and Ä : A-Umlaut Alternative: ae or Ae
ö and Ö : O-Umlaut Alternative: oe or Oe
ü and Ü : U-Umlaut Alternative: ue or Ue
ß : Scharfes S Alternative: ss
to type them in a HTML-document, either type in the Unicode reference or the special HTML name:
Symbol Reference Description Alternative
(unicode) (HTML name)
ä ä Small a, dieresis or umlaut mark ä
Ä Ä Capital A, dieresis or umlaut mark Ä
ö ö Small o, dieresis or umlaut mark ö
Ö Ö Capital O, dieresis or umlaut mark Ö
ü ü Small u, dieresis or umlaut mark ü
Ü Ü Capital U, dieresis or umlaut mark Ü
ß ß Small sharp s, German (sz ligature) ß
These, and many more "foreign" letters can be found at: http://vzone.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/iniframe.htm
Unfortunately, although RootsChat accepts these characters directly from my german keyboard, it doesn't accept the HTML characters.
I don't know why. Maybe Trystan does, I will pass the question on to him.
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Berlin-Bob
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Typing german Umlauts:
Here's one solution.
It's a bit round-the-houses but as you won't need too many umlauts, it will do, till we find a better way ....
I am using a german version of windows, so I am guessing at some of the commands and descriptions, but, here goes ...
Find the Character table
on my computer (windows 2000)
- programs
- acessories
- system programs
- character table
click on any "funny" character
drag it into your RootsChat posting or your Google search window
and that's it !
for instance: Keyboard: Ä , drag and drop from Character table: Ä
For Absolute Beginners: Drag & Drop = click on it with left mouse button and, holding the mouse button down, drag it to it's destination, and then let go of mouse button !
(p.s. if anybody knows a quicker way, don't be shy, tell us about it !)
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JLo
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Thanks Bob
I had tried the alternative spelling (which I already knew) on a couple of sites and they weren't coming up with any results. I shall now go back and try my newly discovered ö
Many thanks
Julie
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emarbe
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Back on the subject of 'producing umlauts on English keyboards'.
If you have a Macintosh computer it is done simply by checking the key combination in the 'KeyCaps control panel'. The main modifier key is the OPTION or ALT key.
The alternative is to load the keyboard language that you require (Macs come with a variety of languages preinstalled or on the system disks) and you can then switch between English and whatever language you want to use, but this is overkill.
Unless you are going to type a letter and are proficient in a foreign language, I would recommend the first option, it is very very easy.
Of course if you use Windows ............. I have no idea apart from what Bob has suggested.
Mike
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scottw67
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Hi
regarding the 'producing umlauts on English keyboards'.
just thought I'd post a follow up to an early post
hold down the ALT key and type the following codes on the numeric keypad on your keyboard.
132 ä
142 Ä
148 ö
153 Ö
129 ü
154 Ü
225 ß
if you need any other foreign characters look for the code in the "Extended ASCII Table" at the bottom of this page
http://www.lookuptables.com/
apologies if this method has already been posted.
cheers
Scott
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Graham Whitehead
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Re: German umlauts. All you need is the LH Alt key on your keyboard and a series of numbers on the RH of your keyboard and you are away:
Alt 132 = ä
Alt 142 = Ä
Alt 148 = ö
Alt 153 = Ö
Alt 29 = ü
Alt 152 = Ü
And there you are! Simple. Graham
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JOHNNIE
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Now that's cool - except I use a laptop!
Johnnie
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Johnnie,
most laptops have a Funktion key, usually labelled Fn and coloured blue or red, and most of the keys on the right have several descriptions on the key, some of which have the same colour as the Fn key - that's your numeric pad 
Fortunately, the Fn and Alt key are next to each other (one hand) leaving your other hand free to find the "num pad" numbers.
There are a few other things which require a lot of contortions, but at least this one is fairly easy.
Or, even better: if your main machine is a laptop, buy a normal keyboard and plug that in (when you are working at a desk or table). This is now my standard set-up, and it does make life so-o-o much easier.
The keyboard is almost twice the width of the laptop, but such a pleasure, not to have such cramped fingers
Bob
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emmsthheight
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Hi Julie and Bob.
Thank you for this topic.
I've got a name that turns up enough different ways, before you start on umlauts etc -Bockma(n)/ Bodeman(n) - supposedly with umlauts, but often turns up with an "e"m or an"a" or ".
So it makes for endless variations!
What I'm wondering is, the two letter alternatives you gave, Bob, are they more or less standard for people in a fairly formal situation - eg if someone sees something on a form?
So should it narrow the results on a respectable German search engine if I use the best two letters?
Also, if I put my two letters in - "oe"?, would it be normal for the search engine in German to look for "0 umlaut" as well?
Thank you again.
Emms
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meles
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I tried to put some Cyrillic letters on my website. I wrote in Word, and copied it across, but they did not come out.
Is there another way?
meles
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emmsthheight
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Hi again!
Just in case anyone looking at your main topic is writing a letter in a wordprocessor, certainly Word, does every one know that they can use keyboard shortcuts:-
Acute
[Ctrl] ['] followed by character. (Use apostrophe middlethree fromright)
Grave
[Ctrl][`] ,, ,, ,, (Use the top left key beside the numbers)
Tilda
[Ctrl][shift][~] ,, ,, ,,
Circumflex
[Ctrl][Shift][^] ,, ,, ,,
Umlaut
[Ctrl][Shift][:] ,, ,, ,,
Word only accents letters you would normally put an accent on.
I'm sure these are in the original posts, but just in case it's of any use to anyone for typing off rooschat.
best wishes.
Emms
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LizzieW
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When I'm using Word and need an accented letter, or fractions etc. I just click on Insert, then symbols. Once you have used an accented letter or fraction a couple of times, they show up as Recently Used Symbols, so you don't have to scroll through them all.
If you want to put an accented letter on here, all you need to do is open a word document, click on Insert, then symbols, chose the one you want, insert in the blank Word document, then copy (or cut) and paste. For example:
έ ΰ ö ç ά
Lizzie
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lesleyhannah
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é
got it now - you need to do it in Word then cut and paste. I do have a name on my tree with an acute accent. I get round this by typing the word café, which in Word automatically comes up with an accent over the é. I then delete the caf ! I'm going to have to experiment to see whether going through the Character Map route is quicker. (Unfortunately I don't know any English words that automatically bring up other accents!)
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