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Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« on: Sunday 29 June 08 19:06 BST (UK) »

Hello

Daniel Pitt was held, I believe at Fisherton Anger jail for horse stealing before he was deported to Tasmania.  Prior to transportation he was held on a prison ship at Devon for the 1841 census.  I have information that is kept on record in Tasmania regarding deportation details, but I would be interested to learn more about the actual trial if possible.

Thanks for any help

Ewan

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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 14:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Ewan

On 6 Apr 1841 Daniel Pitt was being held at the County Gaol, Fisherton Anger, awaiting orders having been sentanced to 14 years transportation for horse stealing at the Wiltshire Lent Assizes.   Unfortunately no further records are held in Wiltshire.

Records of the Assizes and individual trials are kept at the National Archives at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cheers Dave
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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 July 08 12:49 BST (UK) »

Hello Dave, thanks for your reply.

I was hoping that there may have been some information about the trial itself held in Wiltshire, I know a while ago and I believe it was yourself, found some interesting details about a trial around about the same time (1840's) at Wiltshire.  Perhaps different trial venues were archived differently?

I will see if I can find out more, as you suggest, at the National Archives.

Dave, thank you very much for your time looking for me, much appreciated.

Ewan
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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 July 08 16:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Ewan, if the accused was tried at the Quarter Sessions then the records are kept in Wiltshire and are available to view.   However your man was tried at the Assizes, the higher court, and court records are only available through the Archives.

Give me a few days and I'll have a look and see if the trial was reported in the local newspaper, but not all were covered.

Cheers Dave
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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 July 08 09:14 BST (UK) »

Thanks Dave, I didn't realise there was a difference between Assizes and Quarter Sessions, not having had any experience with them as yet, this is the first.  Must have been pretty serious horse stealing then to be tried at the Assizes.

Whenever and if you have the time then I would appreciate help to see if the trial had been reported in the local newspaper.

Thanks again
Ewan
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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 16:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Ewan,

I had a look in the Salisbury and Winchester Jounal and the account of the Wiltshire Assizes at Salisbury appeared in their issue dated 8 March 1841.

The Assizes opened the previous Monday, 1 March 1841, and it was reported that 86 prisoners were for trial.   Unfortunately your man, Daniel Pitt, did not warrant an account, most being devoted to a big murder trial and various assaults and burglaries.   He only appeared in the sentencing summaries after one death sentence, a number of life transportations, a few transportations for 15 years then 'Transported for 14 years Daniel Pit(sic), John Jenner and Geo Dubben'.

Sorry there wasn't more, Dave
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Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. 
Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall
Foster, Rogers in Liverpool
Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire
Mawby, Popple in Rutland
Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset
Willis in Oxfordshire
Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire
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Re: Details of a Trial at Fisherton Anger Please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 July 08 20:55 BST (UK) »

Hello Dave

Thanks a million for looking through the journal for me even though there wasn't much to report due to a murder trial.  It looks like a search is to be had at the National Archives.


Thanks again for your time Dave

Ewan




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