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Re: George Walton Publican
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Cando
Just had a look at my earlier notes. Blanches older siblings George Francis and Florence were both born in Richmond , 1868 and 1871 and were baptised at St Stephen's. so maybe the George in Fitzroy is a different George.
I've just been google earthing and Fitzroy is an awfully long way from Richmond.

My great grandfather Frank was born at Geelong in 1877. so they went to Geelong before Morwell. They give new meaning to the word nomad.

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Wren,
 I would agree wth cando in reading COPPIN as the street.   Using your Google maps/earth you will be able to see that St Stephens Church  in Church Street Richmond [where I also  was christened ..how relevant is that??] is not a great distance from Coppin St.  Coppin, like most main streets of Richmond had and still has a number of pubs.
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:36 BST (UK) »

Thanks sue
I'll need to do a search now and find out the names of the pubs. I'm beginning to think that perhaps he wasn't actually the licensee, but maybe just a manager.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 13:16 BST (UK) »

Wren what was his occupation on the older chns' birth certs...ie if you have them. 

My g grandmother's 2nd husband encouraged her to use her funds to purchase a hotel - and on the birth certs of  their two children, his occupations are  noted as 'Gentleman/Speculator" and "Hotelier"....she was the licensee and I understand, the worker.  He spent his time investing her funds and those of his in laws in 'schemes'....and I say no more Lips Sealed 

http://dhe.darebin-libraries.vic.gov.au/encyclopedia.asp?id=259

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 13:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Cando
I don't have the older certificates. However on his marriage certificate 1865 his occupation is storeman and funnily enough hers is servant. Although he is the informant on the death certificate 1884, he doesn't give his occupation.

Her entry into the country is clouded in mystery as she was ostensibly only 13 when she arrived and there appears to be no records of a family unit according to her name. Earlier posts suggested that she came on the Herald of the Morning 1857. The date fits and thats about all. Unless her parents were dead and she travelled with other relies! Possible.
No other records even remotely fit.

George also has a story concerning Mr Myer of that store. He of course pulled out of the venture and Mr Myer made it rich. Likely. I think not. Scammer, perhaps.

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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 13:58 BST (UK) »

I only mentioned the occupations on earlier certs as I thought it may give a clue as to the name of the hotel he was possibly managing or owned.  It would be interesting to see the birth cert before 1873 and the one after.

I only mentioned my ggrandmother as she also came from a comfortable background but certainly chose badly 2nd time round.  I think she wished to continue to live in the comfort to which she had been accustomed....but she had to work hard to achieve it.

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 14:08 BST (UK) »

Thanks for all of your help Cando.
Every little bit helps. I just need to keep on slowly chipping away at the tree. It is coming together and I've been in contact with other family members through the help of  the rootschat family.
Met relies who I'd always wondered about. Have now built quite a good body of knowledge, despite these minor glitches.

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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 15:08 BST (UK) »

http://www.paperofrecord.com/ has a hit in the Port Phillip Herald, Mar 6 1877 (search for 'George Walton', exact phrase).  (this site is free once you sign up).

It is a news story taken from the Geelong Advertiser, regarding a robbery committed at the Newmarket Hotel, in the Market-square.  The proprietor, Mr George Walton, had some money locked in a chest in his room, and three men lodging at the hotel had broken in and stolen it.

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 22:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Jorose
This looks very exciting. I'll try that.

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 12:42 BST (UK) »

Hi Jorose
Have checked the newspaper article and it looks very interesting. I now just have to find some concrete evidence to either verify that this is my George or discount.

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 04 July 08 06:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Wren,
When I was at the library, I checked some of the Directories for George Walton.
I particularly looked at the Sands MacDougall for '72, '73, & '74.
 
There was a George Walton in 1874 at Errol Street, Hotham.  Hotham is the old name for North Melbourne.  It is not close to Coppin Street Richmond.

There were 2 other Geroge Waltons listed in 1871 and 1872.  One a farmer at Fryerstown and the other a fisherman at Mornington.

However, of possible interest in the  Balliere's Directory of 1875[ business and trades] under the section HOTELS, there was,

Walton, George.  Inverleigh.

That was the total of the entry!

Inverleigh is about 40 kilometers east of Geelong.

Not sure if this is of help Grin
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 04 July 08 07:07 BST (UK) »

Now here is an item of interest.
http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdbksrc1.asp

This index is worth your browsing and it may give you further infromation on your Walton's.

One entry says that a book named Gateway to the West, A Record of Early Inverleigh, contains information about AMELIA WALTON..

At least it may prove that the WALTON"s at Inverleigh [per my last post] are yours!

There is also a mention of GEORGE WALTON in a volume called Drownings in Geelong and District.

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« Reply #27 on: Friday 04 July 08 09:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue
Sorry I haven't replied sooner, sadly I was at work and well its just a bit of an interruption to the real stuff of life.
Thanks for your info. I'll go and have a look now. It might be my George at Inverleigh. The Amelia sounds very promising. I'll have to do some thorough investigating.


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« Reply #28 on: Friday 04 July 08 10:05 BST (UK) »

I also have another little problem. A relative gave me the photo of the younger man and her mother had it identified as George Rowley Walton. I know the older photo if definitely George Rowley. However I feel the younger man may be his son George Francis. I would be grateful to anyone who cold maybe date the photos and posture an opinion as to whether you think they are one and the same or two different people.
My guess the dress in the younger photo is wrong the for the George Rowley period c mid 1800's. I feel the dress is morre suitable for the 1890s.
all opinions gratefully accepted.
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« Reply #29 on: Friday 04 July 08 10:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue
Checked the Inverleigh Hotel entry and got really excited. But alas, I then saw the 1891 Vic women's petition. My Amelia was dead by then ( 1884) and buried at Hazlewood. Next I went to the Vic BDM's there was an Amelia Walton died at Geelong in 1903 aged 75.
I think  we can say with certainty she's not my Amelia, what a blow.
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