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Topic: NSW POSSIBLE BIRTH 1907-1918/20 (Read 540 times)
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trish251
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For a mere $16.50 you can ask for most records on the archives to be digitised Les. A few years ago it was free  and I got a number of family WWII records scanned. I have since paid for a few, but keep hoping someone else in the family may get interested  The archives had a major project to scan WWI. It started by only scanning on request (so I got a few of those done early as well  )
The age difference with his wife could well be a reason - then again maybe not  - so this may remain a small mystery as well.
I'm unsure if John is a direct descendant? If so he could ask the NSW registry to search for the record (at a cost, of course)
Trish
Edit: Hello Sue - I think Les and I both realise that, it has been mentioned by Cando, but having been away from chatting for a week I'm in a chatty mood today 
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cando
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Sue I really hought my suggestion to John to request for a birth lookup away from the long thread to eliminate/validate the date on the WW2 record would give John simple yes or no but it seems this is developing into another long thread  I think we are too helpful
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Cando
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Les de B
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I really hought my suggestion to John to request for a birth lookup away from the long thread to eliminate/validate the date on the WW2 record would give John simple yes or no but it seems this is developing into another long thread I think we are too helpful
Sorry, I'm going to make the thread a bit longer. What was the joining age of the Army in WW2 - 21 or if joining younger, have parents permission? Depending on his "real" birth year (1919 or 1920) he may have not been yet 21 as he enlisted in 1940. Could he have changed his birth year for this reason i.e. to join the Army?
It will interesting to see what age he has on his 1938 Marriage Certificate - 1) under/over 21 - 2) younger/older than his wife?
Les
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de Belin, Swindail, Willcock, Williams, Moore, Watts, Searjeant, Watson, McCready, Reid, Spink, de Lancey, Van Cortland, and of course, Smith!
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cando
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John if he was born towards the end of 1918 his birth may not have been registered until 1919...hence would not show on the records to 1918....
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Cando
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trish251
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Or he changed his age slightly, based on the age of his wife - his wife is on the register as born in 1917. Joyce must have been very close to 21? I would think his age at death may be more reliable, as he may have had to prove his age to get an aged pension(at 65)/repat pension(at 60)
There is no sign of the birth on the NSW CD. I checked for Roy Hood and also for anyone called Roy with parents George and Ada (these names being difficult to misspell) and for any Hood with parents George and Ada.
If you are a direct descendant you could apply to the NSW registry for a certificate - otherwise, looking for a church baptism may be a useful option.
Trish
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Les de B
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I'm not sure how strict NSW BDM's are? As John is only after a birth date would it be worth John's time to email BDM's and indicate to them he has Roy's Marriage Cert, Roy's war records, and details of Roy's death 2O years ago.
I just looked at the BDM's site, and and although births of less than 100 years are restricted except to the individual himself/herself, the wording does read "records are normally only available to the person named on the certificate"
Does "normally" suggest not all the time? Roy has been deceased for over 20 years, and John has a few of Roy's other records.
No harm in trying
Les
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cando
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Hi Les....I doubt he would be successful. He is not a direct relative or descendant. My understanding is that you would be named on the certificate ie. your own birth, your own marriage etc....but I have been known to get things wrong....frequently
Restricted records are normally only available to the person named on the certificate and identification is always required.
Unrestricted records are available to anyone. Identification is not required. We refer to these unrestricted records as Family History Records (Certificates).
Family History Certificates are available to anyone if the event occurred:
Births 100 years ago or more
Deaths 30 years ago or more
Marriages 50 years ago or more
Cando
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trish251
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Used to be that if you spun a good story you could get them - but sadly no more. If the person is dead you need to be the next of kin still living - child, grandchild - or a legal eagle needing the information for the purposes of an estate.
Could be worth trying - I would love to be proven wrong!
Trish
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