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1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:21 BST (UK) »

Hi!

Iwould need an 1841/1851 lookup please for a Kent family originally from Cornwall but who may have moved away...

Here is the info I have :

John KENT born abt 1809 in St Dennis, Cornwall.
Wife Mahala Kent born abt  1816 in St Mewan, Cornwall
They had at least 2 children : John Henry Couch Kent christened in St Stephen in Brannel, Cornwall, in 1838.
Francis Couch Kent christened in St Dennis, in Cornwall, in 1839.

In advance, many thanks for your help. Smiley

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London : Walker, Blake, Kent, Fair

Essex : Fair, Nobes

Yorkshire (Hull) : Kent
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:35 BST (UK) »

Looks like they went up to London soon after Frances was born ..

HO107; Piece 1055; Book: 10; Lambeth  - Kennington First area District: 18; Folio: 15; Page: 25
Hamilton Street


Multiple families in the dwelling in 1841

John Kent 30  Joiner
Mahala Kent 25 
Francis Kent 2 
John Kent 3 

Nichols Kent 25  Smith

Rich Pinck 25 
Nichols Dabb 25 
Eliza Eater 30 

Ann Douglas 30 
Charles Douglas 30 


None 'born in County'
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Steph

In 1841

Hamilton St, St Mary Lambeth
John Kent 30 Joiner
Mahala 25
John 3
Francis 2

All born out of County

In the same dwelling but in separate households - I have tried to group them as suggested by the census

Eliza Eaton 30

Richard Pinch 25 Smith

Nicholas Kent 25 Smith
Nichol Dabb 25 Painter
Charles Douglas 30 Porter
Ann Douglas 30

All born out of County

Ref is HO107 1055/10 f 15

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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:38 BST (UK) »

Oh right, this would match with the fact their eldest son married a Londoner. Smiley

Do you have the household please? All this is so exciting!  Grin

Thank you very very much.
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:39 BST (UK) »

Thank you very much Barbara. Where were they living in 1841 then?

Steph.  Grin
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:42 BST (UK) »

Sorry, I just saw the address, I'm so excited I hadn't noticed.

Could someone please tell me where about St Mary Lambeth is though? I live in France so I'm not too familiar with the British geography... Embarrassed

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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:42 BST (UK) »

Steph

Do you mean 1851?

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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:43 BST (UK) »

Sorry Barbara, we posted at the same time.

You did write the address, sorry I hadn't noticed it.

Also, could someone please tell me where about St Mary Lambeth is though? I live in France so I'm not too familiar with the British geography...

And yes, if you can find them on 1851 and 1861 census, it would be simply amazing.  Grin

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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:45 BST (UK) »

1851 - HO107/1466; Folio: 315; Page: 39 - Paddington
8, Waverly Road


John Kent 40  Head Pattern maker St Dennis
Mahala Kent 32  Wife Cornwall
John Kent 13 son Cornwall
Frank Kent 11   son Cornwall - this must be Francis ?
Robert Kent 8  son Lambeth
P P Couch Kent 1  son Swindon (suspect that the ditto for surname is wrong)

Ellen Laby 17  servant
Larazeth Candon 40  visitor Painter

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:48 BST (UK) »

Lambeth / Kennington are in the 'metropolis', but south of the Thames in what was once classed as the County of Surrey.


Use www.multimap.com toi display and move around the area .. Smiley
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:51 BST (UK) »

I was wrong about PP Crouch Kent - he's with them in 1861 ...

RG9/393; Folio: 36; Page: 5; - Deptford (Greenwich area) (south of the River Thames again, Kent county ! )
13, Wellington Terrace


John Kent 52  Head Model Maker Cornwall St Dennis
Mahala Kent 43  Wife Cornwall, St Mewan
Francis C Kent 21 Son Model Maker St Stephen, Cornwall
Joseph C Kent 19 son Lambeth Model Maker Surrey, Lambeth
Robert C Kent 14  son scholar Swindon
Peter Paul C Kent 11 son Paddington
Arthur R Kent 7   son Paddington
Richard H Kent 5  son Deptford
Mahala E Kent 2  dau Deptford

Emma Stubbins 17 Servant

Albert F A Backe 21  Lodger Engineers Draughtsman Germany, Hanover
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:05 BST (UK) »

Theres a couple of candidates for John Junior around in 1861 - do you know who he married, and his occupation ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:09 BST (UK) »

Looks like John Kent has remarried and started again by 1871 ...

RG10/747; Folio: 119; Page: 47 - Deptford
2, Beaufield Road


John Kent 60  Head Builder Cornwall, St Denis
Harriet Kent 34  Wife Wilts, Marlborough

Mahala Kent 12  Dau Deptford

Frederick Kent 10 months  son Deptford }
                                                                 } TWINS noted on form
William Kent 10 months  do do                }

Ann Mah 33  Servant (Nurse) Uxbridge
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1841/1851 lookup please - KENT
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:12 BST (UK) »

John Henry C Kent married Mary Ann Fair in 1866 in Mile End. He was my great great grandad and the rumour says he was on a ship, some people say he was a fisherman, others a captain, but maybe it was after 1861?! Does this match with something (maybe at least the location?)

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 12:15 BST (UK) »

Found one marriage ...

Marriages Sep 1867 
 
HONEY  Amelia Jane C     
Kent  Joseph Couch     Islington  Vol1b P529   
Stone  Alice Ann     

the 1871 census may help confirm which lady he actually married ...


just seen your last note....

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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