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« on: Tuesday 01 July 08 19:55 BST (UK) »

I am trying to descypher this address from 1851 census Kirk-Andrews Nether, Cumberland.
The address is for Johnathon Pearson b.1819 Knarsdale, Northumberland.
H107 2428/151/10 and is listed between what looks like Slump and Gretna Station.



* PearsonJ1851extraxt1.jpg (5.05 KB, 402x88 - viewed 90 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 20:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

Just had a look on the 1861 census for the address and its down as Plump, before the address you looking for on the 1851, just wondered if its Plump Bridge Cottage Huh Huh

I think this is the ref for 1861 address
Rg9/ 3912
folio 23
page 9

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 20:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Ricky, a long way from home!

Map http://tinyurl.com/64ug64

Gretna Station was just to the north of the A6071.

You can see Plump(e) Farm

You can see the River Sark.

Any bets on Sark Bridge Cottage?  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 21:24 BST (UK) »

Thanks Ricky and Geoff.

I have looked again and darkened the image the first character is similar to the P of Plump above but lacks the swirl at the top.
There is no way I can get Plump from the first word so I will leave this message running for a while in the hope a local will have some more info.

Thanks
Dave
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 21:29 BST (UK) »

After looking again I am wondering if the words following Bridge could be Toll Bar although I can't think why a railway labourer would be living in a toll house.
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Woods - Yorks
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O’Conner – Ireland
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 22:05 BST (UK) »

Having lookeed at both 1851 and 1861, I see Sark (Bridgein 1851) Toll Bar.

The railway through Gretna had only opened in 1847 and didn't get through to Glasgow until 1849, so was in its early days in 1851. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Railway_Main_Line
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 22:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Geoff

From your earlier post "You can see the River Sark"

I would say Sark Bridge is it.

Thanks again
Dave
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Woods - Yorks
Lavelle - Ireland

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O’Conner – Ireland
Kennedy, Leadly – Lancs/Ireland - 1876
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 July 08 20:58 BST (UK) »

Hi

It definitely looks like Sark Bridge Toll Bar".  I wonder if it was literally the Toll Bar Cottage where Irregular or Runaway marriages were conducted.

If you Google it, you'll get all sorts, hostory, photo's mailing list etc.

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