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Cas (stallc)
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Sorry that is all that is stated on index, there maybe more on the original at Glam records...it states 'p' and that means personal details.
Do you have a pob, and approx age will check bapts...
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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margaret davies
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Hi! No I don`t know where they were born 1841 says ,This county, but it must be SWANSEA, Gower area, I know where EBENEZER st is, (roughly) and I know where the Church is that Mary and Samuel got married, I`m going to look at the BMD now to see if I can find a marriage for David Williams to ANN? living at EBENEZER ST SWANSEA and see if she was ANN GUY, possible she was Marys` sister,perhaps that will give me some answers, wish me luck ,, Marg,,
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margaret davies
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could someone please tell me where ANN KIFT nee GUY and her husband John Kift are on the 1841 census, on the 1851 she, ANN KIFT is with her parents RICHARD GUY AND MARY GUY at SOMERSET PLACE, SWANSEA John Kift being a mariner, they got married Sept 1/4 1840 at Neath, so she could be in NEATH OR Swansea,, thanks Marg,,
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Cas (stallc)
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1841 HO107 Piece 1426 Book 1
Parish St John & St Mary.
Hundred: Swansea Borough
11 Somerset Place
Both b in county, image states Kift
John Kiff 22 mariner
Ann Kiff 22 wife
Same ref At no 9 Somerset Place
Both in county
Richard Guy 50 hallier or haltier
Mary 55 wife
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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margaret davies
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 Thanks Cas, this is them,on the 1851 census the daughter of my G/G/Granparents MARY ANN MELLIN lived with them at SOMERSET PLACE she is age 13yrs and there is no JOHN KIFT there then, but Ricky(bless him) found her marriage for me( MARY ANN MELLIN) and they evenually turned up at ABERDAREalong with this ANN who is now THOMAS, so she remarried,I think this RICHARD GUY was a brother to JOHN GUY senior, RICHARD was born in the GOWER, if only I could find a connection so that I could put this family to-gether, thanks MARG,,
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Cas (stallc)
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Hi Marg...
Have sent you some parish info for the 'Guy' families...hope it helps you sort the families out
Best wishes
Cas
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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margaret davies
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 Hi! Cas, here`s one,, Richard Guy m Mary Hopkin, 1835 had a son Richard 1836, looked for him on the 1851 census and he is working at the, VALE PLEASANT POTTERY SWANSEA as a potter along with JOHN GUY13yrs PHILLIP GUY 12yrs and DANIEL GUY 10yrs, could you look at the 1841 for RICHARD and Mary to see the children they had before 1851, thanks so much,, Marg,,
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Cas (stallc)
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The boys you mention in the 1841.
HO107 Piece 1426 Book 3
Oxford Street Swansea
All in county
Daniel Guy 35, ind
Elizabeth Guy 30
Elizabeth " 10
William " 5
Richard " 5
John " 3
Philip " 2
Daniel " 1
GUY ELIZABETH d/o DANIEL (LAB) & ELIZABETH bapt 18 MAY 1831 address MIDDLETON - RHSLI (Rhossili )
GUY SARAH, TWIN d/o DANIEL LAB ELIZABETH bapt 13 AUG 1832 MIDDLETON - RHSLI
GUY MARGARET, TWIN d/o DANIEL LAB ELIZABETH bapt 13 AUG 1832 MIDDLETON - RHSLI
GUY WILLIAM, TWIN s/o DANIEL LAB ELIZABETH bapt 30AUG 1835 MIDDLETON - RHSLI
GUY RICHARD, TWIN s/o DANIEL LAB ELIZABETH bapt 17AUG 1835 MIDDLETON - RHSLI
GUY JOHN s/o DANIEL LAB ELIZABETH 15 APR 1837 MIDDLETON - RHSLI
Info up only to 1837. Margaret & Sarah must have died before 1841
Will look to see if I can find another born around 1834, or another Richard & Mary, beside the ones in Somerset Place
Cas
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 08 July 08 07:45 BST (UK) by Cas (stallc) »
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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Cas (stallc)
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Could not find another Richard b c1836. The only other couple I could find, you mentioned is..
1841 - HO107 Piece 1421 Book 24
address: Latt, Neath
All in county
Richard Guy 25 engineer
Mary 30 "
Margaret " 5mths
This looks like Richard (above) bapt
GUY RICHARD s/o JOHN (LAB) & MARGARET bapt 12 MAY 1816 SWANSEA age 8M SWSSM (St Mary)
Checked bapts, could not find a Richard s/o Richard and Mary 1836, only the one in my first post.
Possible bapt for this family.. GUY HENRY s/o RICHARD (GASMAN) & MARY bapt 21 APR 1836 NEATH
Possible Deaths Jun 1840 GUY Henry Neath 26 541
Best cross them off the list if they are found to narrow down...
Cas
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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margaret davies
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Thanks Cas,, the children you have found for Daniel and Elizabeth are the ones I found working in the pottery,so that i think confirms that family,I will have a look for them on the 1851, the Richard and Mary Guy that I have on the 1851 are in FFORCHAMAN ABERGWAWR, I havn`t got a clue where that is,SORRY, Marg,,
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Hi Marg.,
Fforchaman is in the Aberdare area.
chris
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Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk
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margaret davies
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THis little one HENRY GUY was born 1836 and died 1840 so he wouldn`t appear on any census, I have a feeling that his father RICHARD who married MARY HOPKINS, is the brother of the MARY GUY my G/G?Grandmother, they seem to be living in the same area of Neath, THE LATT on the 1841, Marg,,
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margaret davies
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: HI! Fisherman, still on my tail then  thanks for that I didn`t have a clue, who is the fisherman then, my S/I/Law would be dead jealous if he saw that fish although he did catch 6 lovely trout at aberdulias a few weeks back, David, my husband enjoyed them,, margxx
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Hi Marg.,
Yes still keeping an eye on you. 
The Li'l Fisherman is my grandson.
If you had ancestors in Fforchaman they were probably miners.
Chris
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Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk
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Cas (stallc)
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Glad you sorted that Marg....
Hi fisherman an Li'l Fisherman ((waves))
Just for info... http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl ...has some bapts, post 1837, for Swansea, also Aberdare/Aberaman....which includes Fforchaman (I had rellies there also  ) don't know if you will find anything, but worth a go eh...
Fforchaman was a subdivision of Aberdare parish. Addresses in this hamlet seem to have been near the centre of Aberdare
Best wishes
You know you will get there eventually marg, just like a jigsaw
Cas
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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