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Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« on: Wednesday 02 July 08 11:18 BST (UK) »
Robert Watson Wells was baptisied 19/05/1851, Scruton, Yorkshire. HIs parents are John Wells and Elizabeth Holmes
who married 1843 in Bedale, Yorkshire.

Another Genes member and myself have a discrepency.

We both have Elizabeth Neesam.

Elizabeth married Charles Dean (Husband Number 1) 1877 Northallerton. They had Emily and Henry.

Elizabeth remairred according to my records she maried Robert Watson Wells 9d 659 Guisbrough in Mar 1886.

The other genes member has her remarried to a John Wells in 1885. However I can find no marriage for this.


On the 1891 Census she is the wife of John Wells

However on the 1901 Cesus she is the wife of Robert Watson Wells

Can anyone please help or advise.

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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 12:03 BST (UK) »
Do you have any of those documents? Her marriage to Robert should show her previous names.

Is it possible that the name John was a mistake on the 1891 census and that is where the genes member got that information?

I would only go by my own research, and get documentation where possible.

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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 12:52 BST (UK) »
Having looked at the 1891 and 1901 census, it does look odd and they do look like two different men Undecided

1901
Robert Wells 49 Quarryman Scruton
Elizth        "   45               Osmotherly
Harry        "   17 Joiner         "
Martha     "     9                    "
Minnie      "     3                    "

Mar 1886 Guisbro'    9d   659
Dean  Elizabeth         Wells    Robert

1891
John   Wells 36  Farmer  Scruton
Elizabeth   " 34               Osmotherley
Emily Dean   13                     "
Henry    "       7                     "

Robert did have a brother John, but he was older than Robert and a shoemaker's apprentice in 1861.  Have you tried to find this John (1891 census) in other census?  Unless she married Robert, then John, then Robert again, it's, as you say, a puzzle. 

I see Robert's first wife Ann died in 1881

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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:20 BST (UK) »
Roberts first wife died in 1881.

His brother John married an Annie Dunn.

John and Annie married in Richmond, Yorkshire in 1869

John was baptised 19/09/1844 Scruton.


Thanks  thats why I am puzzled
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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:30 BST (UK) »
Well I can see why the genes member would assume a marriage to a John in abt 1885, but I would get the Robert/Elizabeth marriage cert which should clear things up by giving her previous and former names

It should read widow, late Dean formerly (or nee) Neesam, if she'd married another John Wells in between it should show that.

I reckon despite the discrepancy in age & occupation, that is the same man with a wrong name on the census, it's certainly happened before .....

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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help Barbara

I will indeed get the certificates to confirm.

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Re: Mystery of Robert Watson Wells
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 13:53 BST (UK) »
Please do come back and post the details, will be wondering.......... Cheesy

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