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Lookup birth and parents of Henry King MUNDEE born Cricklade Wiltshire
« on: Thursday 03 July 08 14:32 BST (UK) »

By his death in South Australia he would have been born in Abt 1831 in Cricklade,Wiltshire.
He married Jane Eveleigh - Mar Quarter 1850 -  Jane was born in Lydiard Tregoze,Wiltshire b.25 Dec 1828.  I have information on Jane but Henry's family are elusive to me in Australia.

His father could be William Mundee -

I seem to have possible siblings

Robert Mundee b. Cricklade and married just after Henry

Ancestry had a sister with a middle name of Hing in Cricklade which could be mispelt and should be King?

He had his first child in South Australia in 1852 (must have arrived just after his marriage in 1850) and I am finding it very hard to locate him in 1841 and 1851 Census.  I have located some families spelt Mundee in Broadhinton and residing in Lydiard Tregoze but no Henry!   Tongue

Does anyone have access to Cricklade,Wiltshire,England records?

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King Mundee
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 July 08 15:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Gaynor

On the 1841 census, there is a 17 year old Henry Mundee, living on High Street, Purton, Wiltshire.  Purton is very close to Lydiard Tregoze (well a couple of miles or so).  He was working as an agricultural dealer.

I can't find Henry with or without his wife Jane on the 1851 census, so they must have already arrived in Australia, or en-route.

If you get his marriage certificate, you will find out who his father was.  Without that, there is no connection to the William Mundee and his children.

Lizzie

ps.  1841 reference is RG H0107, piece 1178, Folio 21/4, page 1
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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King Mundee
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 July 08 15:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Lizzie

That 1841 Census might make him a bit old as he was born Abt 1831.  I might have to get the Marriage Cert for him.   Roll Eyes

Thank you

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King Mundee born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 July 08 16:16 BST (UK) »

Gaynor  -

If you think William is his father, then it's more likely that Henry was born in 1824 as per the other children of the family shown on the 1841 census, living in Lydiard Tregoze, reference RG HO107
Piece 1179, Book/Folio 9.9, page 11.  He fits in nicely between Robert and John.


Ann age 26 born 1815
Robert  age 25  born 1816 Wiltshire
John age 20 born 1821    Wiltshire    
Sarah age 19 born 1822    Wiltshire    
Martha age 15 born   1826 Wiltshire
Ferdinand age 14 born 1827 Wiltshire

If he had been born in 1831, surely he would be with his father and siblings in 1841.  No wife is shown for William, presumably she had died before the 1841 census.

By the way, Robert above is not the one you found who married soon after Henry.  On the 1861 census, Robert is unmarried and living with his father, a widower aged 80, his brother John and sister Ann, both unmarried and their widowed sister Sarah, reference RG9, Piece 1273, Folio 88, Page 11.

So if the Robert who married is your Henry's brother, then William is not their father.

Hope this makes sense.

Lizzie
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 July 08 16:34 BST (UK) »

I expect Henry and Jane married in Lydiard Tregoze.   Give me a few days and I'll have a look at the PRs - please let me know if you have evidence they married elsewhere.

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 July 08 20:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

The reference for the marriage of Henry Mundee and Jane Eveleigh that Gaynor found is:

Mar 1850 Cricklade Vol 8 Page 457. 

On FreeBMD, Jane is clearly listed, but Henry is shown as Henry King Mund__   This is because, if you look at the actual list of marriages elsewhere, his name has been inserted and is fairly difficult to read unless you know what you are reading. Huh

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King Mundee born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 July 08 21:30 BST (UK) »

If you register/are registered with:

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1208378357336#

you can view British Vital Records Index information, which is listed as England Baptisms 1700-1900, and England Marriages 1700-1900


There may be more records of use to you, but I did find a marriage of William MUNDEE and Ann KING at Broad Hinton, Wiltshire in 1808.

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King MUNDEE born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 July 08 01:40 BST (UK) »

Morning to Lizzie,Dave and Galium   Grin

Goodness you have all been so busy while I've been sleeping overnight.

Gold medals - to you all.

Logic would tell me that who came from England to Australia took the name of their mother for their middle name or they were named like this when they were born as was the custom at the time.

I just couldn't locate a William Mundee marrying a King.  Definately my eyes were getting tired last night.  As a matter of interest to other's reading this Henry King Mundee had 6 daughters and 3 sons that I have found.  A couple of the boys have mispelling of their surnames of both them and their parents (trying to be very elusive).

William Henry Mundee b. 15 Dec 1850 in Hilton,S.A.- Bk 3 Pg 138 d. 15 Jun 1851 - Bk 2 Pg 89
Rosabella Camilla Mundee b. 21 Apr 1852 m. Creighton Edward Jameson
Helen Jane Mundee b. 1 Jul 1854 m. Marcus Maziene Sargent
Alice Mundee b. 30 Aug 1856 in Angaston,S.A. m. Eustace William Wilson
Francis William Mundee b. 24 Dec 1860 Warcowie,S.A. d. 29 Mar 1933 - Bk 557 Pg 258
Caroline Mary Mundee b. 1863 Warcowie,S.A. m. Isaac Hocart (Can be Catherine/Caroline)
Alfred George Mundee b. 7 Sep 1864 in Warcowie, S.A. - Bk 33 Pg 60 d. 31 Jan 1897 - Bk 241 Pg 287
Louisa Annie Mundee b. 25 Nov 1869 in Nth Ade, S.A. m. Frank Philip Knight
Emily Gerturde Mundee b. 18 Aug 1871 in Warcowie, S.A. m. Arthur Francis Villiers Sanderson

Thank you all for your help.  Very cool you guys...... Cool

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King MUNDEE born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 July 08 04:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Lizzie Dave & Galium

I had a lone Mundee in South Australia - Sarah Mundee who married Daniel Harrington on the 8 Dec 1853 in South Australia - Bk 15 Pg 330.  I had just made a note of her previously.

Grooms age 25 and Brides age 27 years

Could have possibly come out with her brother Henry King Mundee and his wife Jane when they came to Australia.  Looks like a good marriage cert to get as well.  Still haven't located how they arrived in Australia.

STOP - Just checking a flash!

Excellent - I have located her moving after her marriage to Victoria.  Records are much kinder there and I find she died in 1899 in Collingwood,Melb,Victoria,Australia - death cert - 5362 at the age of 74 years - her parent were listed as
Father - Mundee
Mother - Unknown King

I have her with three children:

Agnes Bridget Harrington b. 1854 cert 7176 in Avoca,Victoria,Australia
Philip Ferdinand Harrington b. 1857 cert 7399 in Dunolly,Victoria,Australia
Teresa Martha Harrington b. 1859 cert 15867 in Mt Korong,Victoria,Australia d. 1861 cert 5318 (age 21 months)

Thank you all for putting me into gear this morning.

Gaynor50

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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King MUNDEE born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 13:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Gaynor

Just picked up your query on Henry King Mundee - we must be very distantly related as my 4xGGrandmother - Jael EVELEIGH was Jane's half sister. I didn't know about the Australian connection for Henry and Jane.

I love to share information. What is your relationship with Jane or is it both!

Regards John
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 16:33 BST (UK) »

Welcome to Rootschat John.
I may have found your family, Gaynor, but the dates are a bit out from your original estimate.   There was nothing in Cricklade but with skill and daring the following baptisms were tracked down in Lydiard Tregoze...........

27 Oct 1819 Sarah dau of William and Anne Mundee, yeoman, minister S. Stanley
11 Feb 1824  HENRY KING son of William and Anne Monday, yeoman, minister J.M. Prowen
11 Feb 1824 Martha dau of William and Anne Monday, yeoman, same minister
7 Apr 1828 Ferdinand son of William and Anne Monday, yeoman, minister J. Vilett

Also in Lydiard Tregoze were a number of marriages featuring some names more familiar than others...........

18 Oct 1837 Edward Davis(Studeley Grange L.T.), bach, son of William Davis, farmer and Susannah Mundee (Whitfield Farm), spin, both of age, licence, dau of William Mundee, yeoman.   Witnesses Anne Mundee, Robert Mundee.

24 May 1838 Edward Sealy (Wootton Bassett), bach, innkeeper, father dead and Elizabeth Mundee (Whitfield Farm L.T.), spin, both of age, licence, dau of William Mundee, yeoman.   Witnesses Julia Sealy, Anne Mundee, W. Mundee, John Mundee

14 Feb 1850 Henry King Mundee, of age, bach, yeoman, otp, father William, yeoman and Jane Eveleigh, of age, spin, otp, father Henry Eveleigh, yeoman.   Witnesses Martha Mundee, ?? Charles Eveleigh, Martha Eveleigh

Hope the above starts to fill in some of the gaps.

Cheers Dave
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 16:38 BST (UK) »

I just noticed this Purton baptism over the page................

27 Sep 1781 William son of William and Mary Mundee

and a coincidental marriage also in Purton.........

23 Sep 1780 William Mundee, otp, licence and Mary Moore, otp.   Witnesses Thomas Short and Giles Maskelyne

Purton is next door to Lydiard Tregoze but unfortunately I was unable to find neither William nor Mary's baptisms in that parish.

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Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.  
Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. 
Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall
Foster, Rogers in Liverpool
Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire
Mawby, Popple in Rutland
Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset
Willis in Oxfordshire
Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 16:40 BST (UK) »

It looks as if the names Monday and Mundee were interchangeable depending on the vicar  Smiley

Dave
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Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall
Foster, Rogers in Liverpool
Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire
Mawby, Popple in Rutland
Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset
Willis in Oxfordshire
Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire
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Re: Lookup birth and parents of Henry King MUNDEE born Cricklade Wiltshire
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:02 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave,  Cheesy

I have spoken to John by email and have forwarded his email address to a direct line member of his family.  I am just a marriage connection into the family but was asked by them to find out a little more about their family back in England.  I had most of the information that was available in Australia on my gedcom already but just hadn't had a closer look justifying this section and connecting back to England.

Well how good are you!  Cannot thank you enough for your efforts.  I found great delight myself in finding Sarah Mundee's family and adding her information on her in Australia.  I am forwarding to John all the information you have researched and shared with me.

I just love you all at rootsweb.   Grin

You just make my day.

Gaynor50

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 02:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

While adding information etc.  I didn't have the daughter Susannah Mundee that you mentioned in your prior post that married Edward Davis.  Do you know when she was born? 

Gaynor50  Roll Eyes
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